WHM Brewskies

So i was planning on soloing shinryu a few times for gear, and seeing as whm has nearly 2/3rds of the blunt procs, i figured it would be a good choice, seeing as I dont have mnk. Now when it comes time to deal damage, which of the elemental ws's available to whm will do the most damage?

Should go thf/rng on piercing with a markmanship instead, more trigger, TH and aeolian edge for zerg~

Don't see why Flash Nova wouldn't work well, I was planning on trying it out on some random abyssea junk later with MAB+ atmas before I experiment with brewing Shinryu again. I would like to check out my Cataclysm numbers too, but I might toy with that on WAR.

I had no problems brewing with Hexa Strike though when I was just playing with VV/RR/Apoc

I might be missing something but: staff/club is 10/15(66%) of the triggers during blunt time as opposed to dagger + sidewinder & slug shot is 6/15(40%) of triggers during piercing. Again maybe i missed something.

Yeah staff and club is def more triggers than thf/rng, plus you miss out on the MAB from /rdm if you go thf/rng. Though i do like aeolian edge, it perfromed quite well on thf and when i went pld to solo red.

True, forgot about staff :|
But! during blunt, H2H is the trigger most of the time (from what i noticed anyway) and the good side going on thf is TH, which will greatly help crap like mail and cloak to drop
As for cataclysm, i heard it was doing great dmg, i dont have it tho, only tested earth crusher with "meh" MAB atma on MNK, was doing a steady 9000-15000dmg and self-SCing, which aint bad at all.

every time ive done blunt its freaking hexa lol, but i could certainly try earth crusher next time i brew

OMG, our ls has several people who dual box whm and because all the boxes are alt's they dont have hexa or black halo T.T Its like EVERY NM it seems.

ITT skilling up is hard and requires mass investment

Anyone try brewing with Flash Nova using MAB atma? Really curious as to how hard it can hit.

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Sorry for the necro bump didnt wanna start a new thread.

Flash Nova is okay, it was doing 6k on Rani compared to Sanguine Blades 4k. Rani resists dark damage which is why SB was so low, but to my knowledge doesn't resist light damage, which, if true, means that it's probably not all that great really, and you'll still be better off with earth crusher.

Cataclysm's got this!

With the right gear a good WHM could spam Banish~aga etc Holy for alot of DMG when atmas added also. That + Hexa you could still win easily.

You mean rng/thf. Can still get Th3 and hit more blue triggers (10/15) and then just one shot the mob once you do trigger

Cool thanks for the info, wasnt thinking for solo, have been duo'ing shin with a friend of mine, was just trying to find out how much better it would be than Hexa, because thats what ive been using to brew, failed one attempt bc I kept healing him was kind of annoying. :/

With atma of the beyond, MM, and Allure Flash novas were doing mad damage, and another thing to note, is Flash Nova to Flash Nova makes fragmentation, for even more damage. And if its flashed it can't hit you and absorb your buffs as readily assuming you're getting hit that much at all.

I brewed Shinryu on WHM a few times, and aside from my Atma options, which aren't extensive enough to cover all the elemental weaponskill types you can access with staves and clubs, I noticed a serious advantage in Earth Crusher.

Sure, it won't have the "new look" or "feel" you may get from Flash Noca or Cataclysm, but that silly old weaponskill was averaging 17k damage with just Atma of the Beyond, Ultimate and Baying Moon.
On another occasione I tried using Flash Nova with the same Atmas and, oddly enough, got lower results, while using a Morgenstern VS a Terra's staff.
Of course, neither of the 2 weapons I chose were in any way a top choice, but still, Terra proved more effective.

So if you don't have access to Flash Nova or Cataclysm, I'd say "rest assure and don't lose all hope", for as long as you bring a Doom Screen (something I had to learn the hard way, being doomed by Shinryu during brew and dying after Holy water and cursna spam fail), yes you can!

Shinryu apparently takes reduced dmg (50% I think? can't recall) from both light and dark element ws's so yeah, earth crusher should be your best bet.

I saw a whm brew shinryu alternating black halo and hexastrike for light skill chains. Went pretty well, wasn't amazing damage numbers but it worked nonetheless.

Alternating between Cataclysm and Earth Crusher also works pretty well, since it skillchains, but I don't remember what at the moment.

I've brewed using Flash Nova. On Shin it did only about 6k - but now I understand why. On the Beneficus Cactuar NM with 2 MAB atma and one fresh (should have switched in a 3rd) it was doing 7-9k. On the mandies around it, it was doing 25k lol...

Yeah i just did Black Halo, Hexa Strike, Light Skillchain, MB with Holy or Bansish/ga. Worked well for me and i had plenty of time to spare

If you're using a physical weapon skill it better be a crit WS, so good. Why the hell don't you use SS though? I highly doubt you have a crit damage+ build on your white mage. Losing out on 20% damage right there.

noticed a lot of people using mab atmas, so i'm guessing most people brew from the start?

what i did was minikin/ambition/vv, and ws it until i get a blue read. then i just die and hp if it's h2h, or use a brew and use the regain to proc blue.

my numbers on earth crusher with no mab atmas are pretty shitty, but i also don't equip mab gear on whm.

Flash Nova is terrible on Shin. Full MAB gear build on top of Ultimate, Beyond, and Baying moon would barely break 6k on him. Where as Hexa would do 11k+.

So, what atma to use for the Hexa -> Black Halo business?

I'd imagine along the lines of RR/GH/DD/VV/Apoc, any of those.. I think. I rarely DD my WHM in aby, and if i do its RR/MM. :< no heroes so 2 atma

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