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Tumbler Trunks?
 Asura.Barthalomew
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By Asura.Barthalomew 2010-08-03 08:04:32  
I would think this is an easy answer. But I wanted to ask the math kids. Tumbler trunks or Aurum pants. ( I don't have ares and I don't plan on getting them)

This is my WS setup now:

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By Odin.Dirtyfinger 2010-08-03 08:07:25  
Tumbler Trunks hands down unless you're really down on accuracy, and then I'd probably suggest those Perle trousers.
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By Asura.Barthalomew 2010-08-03 08:08:45  
That's what I figured.. now I just need to kill that mofo and get a pair.

Thank you for your help.
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By Valefor.Byxfluzba 2010-08-03 15:22:09  
How does ares compare to trunks for drakes?
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By Valefor.Argettio 2010-08-03 15:50:18  
6STR, 1 DEX, 2DA vs 18 attack.

In terms of acc and crit rate they will be pretty much the same.

2%DA is going to be 2.5% increase (2% chance of 125% damage)
6STR will be 1fSTR (0.75-1%) and 2 WSC (1.5-2%).

So Ares is 4.75-5.5% increase.

For 18 attack to give the similar sort of gains you would have to have a base attack lower that 327-378.

So ares is a decent chunk ahead of Tumbler, before we even consider the effect crits have.
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By Valefor.Byxfluzba 2010-08-04 01:16:52  
Hurray! And needless to say 6str > 18 attack for wheeling and sonic right.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-08-04 01:34:10  
Valefor.Argettio said:
6STR will be 1fSTR (0.75-1%) and 2 WSC (1.5-2%).
How do you figure? It's 1-2 fSTR and 3 WSC, alpha notwithstanding. Benefits Ares rather than detracting from it, just curious where you got 1 fSTR and 2 WSC.

It's my understanding that DA only procs off the first two hits of a WS, which cuts the value of DA on Drakesbane in half. Not a huge factor given the gains above, but it's there. I'd still favor Ares just from extending Argettio's numbers.
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By Valefor.Argettio 2010-08-04 16:45:02  
6STR could be 1-2fSTR depending on your other gear/stats, I was being conservative (read: too lazy do the maths twice).

((6*.5)*.83) = 2.49, floored to 2. (actually alpha will lower @ lvl80, but I haven't seen any testing yet).

Again, it could be 3 WSC depend on your other gear/stats, but I was being conservative.

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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-08-04 21:39:26  
Valefor.Argettio said:
(actually alpha will lower @ lvl80, but I haven't seen any testing yet).
It's actually higher. http://www.bluegartr.com/forum/showthread.php?t=95122
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By Valefor.Argettio 2010-08-05 06:25:46  
Odd, alpha used to drop as your level increased, but that's SE for you.
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