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Trial of the Magians: Samurai
Caitsith.Linear
By Caitsith.Linear 2010-04-23 18:15:36
Shiva.Gylfie said: Why do all your dream sets include *** helm? If your dream sets don't have capped acc, then they are pretty shitty dream sets :|
Did you count the haste? All the GKT ones have 26% Haste.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-04-23 18:16:46
Caitsith.Linear said: EInharjar/Limbus mobs? I said my build wasn't the best. I know it needs improvements.
I've also never said I WASN'T going to make the upgrades like you all assumed. But the most cost effective ones are first.
I'm not dropping 1.8 mil into a zerg weapon or 3 mil into slightly better body armor when I've got other gear flaws.
*** that you're not capped in limbus and 95% of ejar mobs(hi2chigoes) with pizza.
I do sam polearm for both events plenty enough and turban is definitely better than ace's for both of those. Hell, as far as limbus goes, can cap acc w/ yellow curry bun w/ np in most zones.
Caitsith.Linear
By Caitsith.Linear 2010-04-23 18:17:43
Says the guy with full Usukane.
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2010-04-23 18:18:17
Haub+1 isn't 3m either
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-04-23 18:18:28
Caitsith.Linear said: Says the guy with full Usukane. ? What's full usu have to do with this? I only use that on birds.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-04-23 18:19:45
Quote: Did you count the haste? All the GKT ones have 26% Haste.
What about the war dream set w/ askar helm and only 21% haste?
Caitsith.Linear
By Caitsith.Linear 2010-04-23 18:20:10
Bismarck.Dracondria said: Haub 1 isn't 3m either
So it isn't. Thanks for pointing that out. I haven't been keeping an eye on it's price. Been more concerned with Zahak's Mail price. D:
Caitsith.Linear
By Caitsith.Linear 2010-04-23 18:21:40
That was made when everyone thought Askar was better. I don't go back and edit them. I make them when I'm bored and forget about them.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-04-23 18:22:47
I like how you replied to that, but didn't feel up to replying to the usu comment.
Again, what does full usu have to do with what I said about pizza builds?
Caitsith.Linear
By Caitsith.Linear 2010-04-23 18:23:32
Oh missed that. I've seen you mention full Usu with polearm, but nothing about birds only. Sorry for the confusion.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-04-23 18:23:44
Is it just me, or when you see pizza in your inventory, do you get really *** hungry?
Caitsith.Linear
By Caitsith.Linear 2010-04-23 18:26:18
I'm the same. And all this talk off pizza is making me hungry too. Damn all of you.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-04-23 18:26:30
Tomoe/Pole/empty/Negro tathlum
Turban/Love/Brutal/Odin ear thingie
Usu/Dusk/Rajas/Toreador
Forager/Vbelt/Byakko/Usu
Is what I use for my pizza build. I have a macro that swaps in cuch mantle but it's almost never required for me to use it.
I cap acc easily in ejar and limbus w/ pizza on this build. I don't see how you need ace's in either event.
Caitsith.Linear
By Caitsith.Linear 2010-04-23 18:29:16
Because you've got an ace's worth of acc on your feet and a little more acc in various area's that I don't.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-04-23 18:30:15
Caitsith.Linear said: Because you've got an ace's worth of acc on your feet and a little more acc in various area's that I don't. No acc on belt, you have 3 there. No acc on ear, you have 3 there. I still have more, but not nearly as much as you think.
Caitsith.Linear
By Caitsith.Linear 2010-04-23 18:34:57
It's 9-10 more. 4.5~5% hitrate difference. It'd be 16-17 acc behind without Ace's. Might as well be wearing Askar Korazin with everything else you have equipped.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-04-23 18:38:10
Askar doesn't 5hit me. Some of that acc is negligible due to your poor choices (*** smart grenade). I highly doubt I'm just edging cap, as the other polearm sam w/ less acc than me still caps.
Do a limbus w/ pizza show me the parse that warrants using ace's. Till then I'm calling BS.
Or wait, I'll do you one better. I'll remove toreador's ring and love torque. Going to limbus tonight. Will TP in justice torque and flame ring. I'll post the parse when we finish.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-04-23 18:47:43
Also, just checked your set out, w/ pizza you hit 94.5% hitrate in that set w/ pizza on birds (if you gtfo w/ that smart grenade ***and upgrade to at least a tiphia). Limbus mobs aren't as evasive as birds lol. SOME t3 ejar mobs may be, t1 and t2, aside from boss, definitely not.
Edit: by your set, i mean your set w/ turban in place of ace's.
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By Cerberus.Valkyris 2010-04-23 18:51:12
I never post on these forums but holy LOL at that dream WAR TP with Aurum feet, mars over blitz ring, and askar over turban / DEX2 or STR2 haste 5 moogle helm.
Holy crap, lol.
Caitsith.Linear
By Caitsith.Linear 2010-04-23 18:54:01
I await the parse results.
And as I said, I'm doing the most cost effective first. Grenade -> Tiphia is one of those actually. It's 1/20 the cost of Hauby+1 for the/nearly the same acc gain.
Caitsith.Linear
By Caitsith.Linear 2010-04-23 18:55:01
Cerberus.Valkyris said: I never post on these forums but holy LOL at that dream WAR TP with Aurum feet, mars over blitz ring, and askar over turban / DEX2 or STR2 haste 5 moogle helm.
Holy crap, lol.
That set is ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooold.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-04-23 18:56:07
Caitsith.Linear said: I await the parse results.
And as I said, I'm doing the most cost effective first. Grenade -> Tiphia is one of those actually. It's 1/20 the cost of Hauby 1 for the/nearly the same acc gain. You can solo tiphia with ease rly and nobody camps it. (though its only 90k on your server lol. Join a pick up salvage run and comment alexandrite instead gear. You'd get that in 1 run)
Caitsith.Linear
By Caitsith.Linear 2010-04-23 18:59:43
I'd do pick-up Salvage if anyone other than JP did it. And if I weren't IN a salvage group. Alexandrite are sold for body upgrades mats, iirc. They cost points too and Aurum Cuirass, Homam Manopolas and Homam Cosciales are much more important to me.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-04-23 19:00:52
Could start one yourself rly, a pick up group that is. Coin purses are my new farming method. Much less boring and makes decent gil. Got a linen purse the other day and 3 coin purses in 1 run. 500k go!
Caitsith.Linear
By Caitsith.Linear 2010-04-23 19:04:13
Huh. I might consider that. Thanks.
Beats the hell out of killing Goobbues.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-04-23 19:06:34
SSR is my favorite to do for coinpurses
Zhayloam is a solid 2 coin purses + alexandrite you can farm from gears after 6th floor frog
Bhaf is a gamble. If ramparts pop nms though you'll make a lot of gil.
Paggo: don't do it. Rats have a *** shitty drop rate on coin purses.
Caitsith.Linear
By Caitsith.Linear 2010-04-23 19:12:08
We've been spamming SSR for Deimos Cuisses. I need a pair myself eventually but again, I'd rather spend points on more important items. Aurum, Homam Hands/Feet and Usu Feet, for the most part. I want Usu Body too, but that's the last on my list of "must get ASAP".
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By Midgardsormr.Frobeus 2010-04-23 19:58:06
Sylph.Tigerwoods said: Tomoe/Pole/empty/Negro tathlum
Turban/Love/Brutal/Odin ear thingie
Usu/Dusk/Rajas/Toreador
Forager/Vbelt/Byakko/Usu
Is what I use for my pizza build. I have a macro that swaps in cuch mantle but it's almost never required for me to use it.
I cap acc easily in ejar and limbus w/ pizza on this build. I don't see how you need ace's in either event.
Need to put Brutal/Rajas on the correct ear/finger for full effect.
Quit gimping it up on ear1/ring1 ***.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-04-23 20:02:47
Rings/earrings 101:
Pimp goes FIRST
Exceptions: Bushi touching black tathlum
I use brutal on left w/ polearm. On right w/ gkt
Rajas always on left, it's pimp.
644>645>646>647>648>649>650>651 (focus: NMs)
Radennotachi DMG:89 Delay:450
644>645>646>652>653>654 (10 krabkatoa shells)
Kurodachi DMG:68 Delay:464 Occasionally attacks twice
644>645>646>652>653>655>656>657 (Simple monster killing)
Kurodachi DMG:40 Delay:464 Occasionally attacks twice
658>659>660>661>662>663 (Fire weather kills, flan x200)
Efunotachi DMG:81 Delay:437 STR+4 Attack+15
658>659>660>661>664>665 (Fire additional effect procs)
Efunotachi DMG:84 Delay:450 Additional effect: Weakens attack +10
658>659>666>667>668>669 (Wind weather kills, morbol x200)
Efunotachi DMG:81 Delay:437 AGI+4 Evasion+15
658>659>666>667>670>671 (Wind additional effect procs)
Efunotachi DMG:84 Delay:450 Additional effect: Impairs evasion +10
658>659>672>673>674>675 (Thunder weather kills, qutrub x200)
Efunotachi DMG:81 Delay:437 DEX+4 Accuracy+12
658>659>672>673>676>677 (Thunder additional effect procs)
Efunotachi DMG:84 Delay:450 Additional effect: Lowers accuracy +10
658>659>678>679>680>681 (Light weather kills, aern x200)
Efunotachi DMG:81 Delay:437 CHR+4 Magic Evasion +12
658>659>678>679>682>683 (Light additional effect procs)
Efunotachi DMG:84 Delay:450 Additional effect: Lowers magic evasion +10
658>684>685>686>687>688 (Ice weather kills, worm x200)
Efunotachi DMG:81 Delay:437 INT+4 Magic Attack Bonus +7
658>684>685>686>689>690 (Ice additional effect procs)
Efunotachi DMG:84 Delay:450 Additional effect: Lowers magic attack +10
658>684>691>692>693>694 (Earth weather kills, sabotender x200)
Efunotachi DMG:81 Delay:437 VIT+4 Physical damage taken -7%
658>684>691>692>695>696 (Earth additional effect procs)
Efunotachi DMG:84 Delay:450 Additional effect: Weakens defense +10
658>684>697>698>699>700 (Water weather kills, goobbue x200)
Efunotachi DMG:81 Delay:437 MND+4 Magic Defense Bonus +7
658>684>697>698>701>702 (Water additional effect procs)
Efunotachi DMG:84 Delay:450 Additional effect: Lowers magic defense +10
658>684>703>704>705>706 (Dark weather kills, ahriman x200)
Efunotachi DMG:81 Delay:437 MP+50 Magic Accuracy +12
658>684>703>704>707>708 (Dark additional effect procs)
Efunotachi DMG:84 Delay:450 Additional effect: Lowers magic accuracy +10
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what will be your choice and why?
The ones i like:
Radennotachi DMG:89 Delay:450
Straight up damage, seems decent especially for a meikyo gk
644>645>646>652>653>654 (10 krabkatoa shells)
Kurodachi DMG:68 Delay:464 Occasionally attacks twice
sweet a higher damage multi-attack gk, however its only twice, instead of 2~3x such as soboro, hard to tell but i might just go for it, i happen to love this model of GK also
658>659>672>673>674>675 (Thunder weather kills, qutrub x200)
Efunotachi DMG:81 Delay:437 DEX+4 Accuracy+12
i think this would be badass... dex and acc, totalling to 15 accuracy on a sword, i think it would be a very valid weapon for askar sams... i might just get one of these for hi-eva mobs.. but still omg.. the only downside is 81 damage :/
anyways list what you think would be cool/badass
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