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sam/dnc reverse flourish
Diabolos.Ghlin
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By Diabolos.Ghlin 2010-03-18 18:18:58
meditate to 200. wait for meditate recast. ic wing. corsair.
sekka, gekko, gekko, med, gekko, 2hr, gekko, gekko, gekko, random deal, med, gekko, wild card, med, sekka, gekko, reverse flourish, gekko, 2hr, gekko gekko gekko, random deal, med, gekko, wing, gekko.
Bahamut.Zorander
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By Bahamut.Zorander 2010-03-18 18:28:50
is this a jeopardy question?
Answer: what is a Sam with extreme ammounts of luck? and would take at least 5 min to finish?
Remora.Fyyvoaa
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By Remora.Fyyvoaa 2010-03-18 18:29:07
uh ...
Cool?
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By Fairy.Vegetto 2010-03-18 18:34:47
Why not just get 10 cosairs, constantly swap them in and out of your pt and have them each random you and each other every time you meditate?
Ramuh.Krizz
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By Ramuh.Krizz 2010-03-18 18:36:35
Fairy.Vegetto said: Why not just get 10 cosairs, constantly swap them in and out of your pt and have them each random you and each other every time you meditate? Don't forget the rotating WHMs to cure bomb
Diabolos.Ghlin
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By Diabolos.Ghlin 2010-03-18 18:49:33
Fairy.Vegetto said: Why not just get 10 cosairs, constantly swap them in and out of your pt and have them each random you and each other every time you meditate?
omg... so funny.
Pandemonium.Raudy
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By Pandemonium.Raudy 2010-03-18 19:08:34
why would you use gekko the whole time?
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Ifrit.Duanyu
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By Ifrit.Duanyu 2010-03-18 19:30:05
stigma i guess, whenever i zerg something on sam its usually all gekko. I suppose that might be because i'm lazy and dont feel like creating a skillchain, but who knows. Maybe vegetto will do some math to show that gekko parses higher numbers than other sam ws's.
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By Fairy.Vegetto 2010-03-18 19:32:00
Gekko has the same formula as yukik and kasha, but it's been tested to have a higher attack multiplier. If you're doing WS by yourself, sure a SC will do well, but if you're in a situation where everyone is zerging WS, you have absolutely no chance to create a self skill chain, in which case you'd use Gekko, since if you can't attack attack on the other two, it's greater, and even if you can, then they'd only be identical.
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By volkom 2010-03-18 19:37:17
Diabolos.Ghlin said: meditate to 200. wait for meditate recast. ic wing. corsair. sekka, gekko, gekko, med, gekko, 2hr, gekko, gekko, gekko, random deal, med, gekko, wild card, med, sekka, gekko, reverse flourish, gekko, 2hr, gekko gekko gekko, random deal, med, gekko, wing, gekko. its more like this...
meditate to 200. wait for meditate recast.
sekka, jinpu -> gekko = reverberation. icwing meditate
-> yukikaze = induration -> kasha = compression 2hr -> yukikaze = detonation -> kasha = gravitation ->
gekko = darkness and repeat :D
and doesn't icarus wings put medicated status on you? so u can't use more than 1?
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By Fairy.Vegetto 2010-03-18 19:38:57
volkom said: Diabolos.Ghlin said: meditate to 200. wait for meditate recast. ic wing. corsair. sekka, gekko, gekko, med, gekko, 2hr, gekko, gekko, gekko, random deal, med, gekko, wild card, med, sekka, gekko, reverse flourish, gekko, 2hr, gekko gekko gekko, random deal, med, gekko, wing, gekko. its more like this...
meditate to 200. wait for meditate recast.
sekka, jinpu -> gekko = reverberation. icwing meditate
-> yukikaze = induration -> kasha = compression 2hr -> yukikaze = detonation -> kasha = gravitation ->
gekko = darkness and repeat :D
and doesn't icarus wings put medicated status on you? so u can't use more than 1? If you're the only DD, sure that'd work great.
By volkom 2010-03-18 19:40:40
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Diabolos.Ghlin
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By Diabolos.Ghlin 2010-03-18 22:31:58
Pandemonium.Raudy said: why would you use gekko the whole time?
gekko>all
needs moar gekko
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By Diabolos.Bigofatkid 2010-03-18 22:34:57
Pandemonium.Raudy said: why would you use gekko the whole time? omfg lol, why wouldn't you noob
Quetzalcoatl.Rumaha
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By Quetzalcoatl.Rumaha 2010-03-18 23:08:47
Diabolos.Bigofatkid said: Pandemonium.Raudy said: why would you use gekko the whole time? omfg lol, why wouldn't you noob
Because the extra dmg from making a SC will rape the extra dmg Gekko does over Kasha and Yuki? Assuming this is soloish and not a multi person zerg as Veg says.
Edit**
Also statically at least like out of 15 WS 5% will miss so lets say at LEAST(actually just a shade under 1) 1 misses, probably 2 or 3.
Ramuh.Dasva
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-03-18 23:19:26
Against and element skillchaining like that was way better. I mean you see that last darkness? It did over 2X the closing ws dmg
Diabolos.Ghlin
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By Diabolos.Ghlin 2010-03-18 23:23:28
Ramuh.Dasva said: I mean you see that last darkness?
ah'll tell you what i didn't see... enough gekko
Carbuncle.Rinomaru
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By Carbuncle.Rinomaru 2010-03-19 15:58:03
Diabolos.Ghlin said: meditate to 200. wait for meditate recast. ic wing. corsair.
sekka, gekko, gekko, med, gekko, 2hr, gekko, gekko, gekko, random deal, med, gekko, wild card, med, sekka, gekko, reverse flourish, gekko, 2hr, gekko gekko gekko, random deal, med, gekko, wing, gekko.
I'd do this only if i had kaiten.
Other than that it's a pipedream
Carbuncle.Rinomaru
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By Carbuncle.Rinomaru 2010-03-19 16:00:42
200% sekko rana>gekko
meditate>Gekko
2hr: Yuki>gekko>Kasha
6ws's but light and darkness will do way more than impaction or gravitation can do.
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By Garuda.Aurilius 2010-03-19 16:22:43
Quote: Why not just get 10 cosairs, constantly swap them in and out of your pt and have them each random you and each other every time you meditate?
Because corsair's wild card doesn't reset another corsair's two hour. If it did, ***would be broken.
Ifrit.Phlow
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By Ifrit.Phlow 2010-03-19 16:47:07
Garuda.Aurilius said: Quote: Why not just get 10 cosairs, constantly swap them in and out of your pt and have them each random you and each other every time you meditate?
Because corsair's wild card doesn't reset another corsair's two hour. If it did, ***would be broken.
It doesn't matter. With a 1/3 chance at resetting a 2hr, 10 COR's should net you 4x 2hr's to burn (including initial).
Veg's point was that this is not something that's ridiculous or overpowered. If we are throwing lucky Wild Card and Random Deal's in the mix, we're obviously setting up a situation that isn't typically going to happen. So if it isn't typical, why not create a purely fictitious setup?
Bismarck.Nevill
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By Bismarck.Nevill 2010-03-20 16:45:06
Unless you have my luck, then all 10 will give you more mp on your SAM.
meditate to 200. wait for meditate recast. ic wing. corsair.
sekka, gekko, gekko, med, gekko, 2hr, gekko, gekko, gekko, random deal, med, gekko, wild card, med, sekka, gekko, reverse flourish, gekko, 2hr, gekko gekko gekko, random deal, med, gekko, wing, gekko.
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