Kujata.Akeda said:
Water cooling a Data Center? Why? Is your company HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE or just full of fail? Water cooling isn't intended to be used in a server or mission critical environment. I don't know why they don't put the servers in an A/C controlled room like everyone else does.
Short Answer: HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE, no. Fail, no. Water cooling issue in a server environment, if you're thinking about workstation gigs and $200 all in one packages, you're right. However, we're a bit more sophisticated. We are currently operating on an air cooling infrastructure. Forced air cooling costs us millions every year. We expect ROI turnaround to be 2-3 years
if it works out. Our water cooling solution by our contractor consumes less than 50% of electrical energy. As far as external energy issues go, this isn't just an IT based project.
Kujata.Akeda said:
The company and IT dept both sound full of fail. If the boss says 'lets remove the fans cause they're noisy' or 'I'd be cool if we used water to cool our computers', the IT guy(s) should have the balls to explain why that isn't a good idea. I can think of several myself, the biggest being that real servers being used in a production environment are not toys and when it fails the IT guy get the blame.
Company and IT fail, no. Bosses idea, no. It turned out to be a good idea. I've stated on other forums, when it comes to the feasibility factor we're only initiating testing at our HQ office, if it poses to be a problem, we will revert and cancel implementation. If not, we move forward with the project nationwide at our larger campuses. I can understand your point of view if your company has limited resources and funds to work. We simply have a little more breathing room.
Kujata.Akeda said:
Anyways, I have no clue how you'd emulate 5v, but I'm sure the computer is also using RPM monitoring to make sure the fans are spinning. So you might want to look into that too. What I'm more curious about is why don't you just plug in the fans for the radiator into the fan headers? Problem solved. (I'm also really curious how a DC is going to maintain any reasonable amount of uptime, but that's not really my problem.)
That is the problem we are facing. Yes, there is a pin dedicated to fan monitoring but that is based on the application layer post boot to fetch related data, so it's not an issue for us. Again, we're not using standard radiator single system coolers. Our radiator runs externally and a trunk of pipes run directly to the module processors that require cooling. As for up time issues, we are more than capable to maintain up time even if half our servers went down.
Kujata.Akeda said:
Edit: Just thought of this. Wouldn't your idea just be counter productive? The created electricity would be dissipated in the form of heat and unnecessary heat is bad.
We have plans to recycle the heat dissipated in place to our heating system but that will be on a very small scale.
Leviathan.Erang said:
custom LED light kits? heh.
You may think it's funny but it's one of the best ways to handle the situation and it's sitting near the top of our fallout solutions :).
Eagleeyes & Rydia. Modular water cooling > Forced air induction in a large scale environment. No one said anything about overclocking & it's silly to even retain that term in your head today. But if you're fanboys I understand. A "server" in my world is more than an i7 PC with a fan slapped on top of it. And I'm pretty sure DELL sees it that way too. Outside of your ... posts, 'ignorance is bliss'.