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Samurai budget armor
Bismarck.Dalimar
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By Bismarck.Dalimar 2010-01-08 18:51:49
Anyone else use any of the WoTG Fourth set for SAM TP gear? I use misc peices in my TP gear set and it seems ok, i need to finish my Store TP merit, but it my build gets me to a 5 hit WS (adding the TP from the ws). Just thought this would be a good topic, and any other budget suggestions would be great.
Alexander.Helder
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By Alexander.Helder 2010-01-08 18:55:10
samurai AH gear is already budget...I mean how can you compain when hauby is 100k...
samurai is mega cheap to gear decently...hell even onimaru is a great option pre-hagun and its dirt cheap.
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By Fairy.Vegetto 2010-01-08 18:56:57
Well how low is your budget? There is very cheap gear that isn't top notch, but can still outclass that set.
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By Sylph.Beelshamen 2010-01-08 18:57:59
Get rose strap instead, bra.
Alexander.Helder
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By Alexander.Helder 2010-01-08 18:58:45
Sylph.Beelshamen said: Get rose strap instead, bra.
pole grip is like 4K lmao
Seraph.Jacon
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By Seraph.Jacon 2010-01-08 19:00:59
BUDGET GEAR!
this is much better:
Alexander.Helder
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By Alexander.Helder 2010-01-08 19:01:39
Seraph.Jacon said: BUDGET GEAR!
this is much better:
that looks like SAM AF actually lol
Bismarck.Dalimar
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By Bismarck.Dalimar 2010-01-08 19:02:26
If i where to set a budget, it would be 800k, i already have my Meditate set and ws set, just kinda liked the subtle blow for shedding hate, and the str and att is nice for any sam, i only use head, body hands and legs in my tp set, i use af boots, bull neck always str rings merman earing and minuet ear plus tiphia sting, hagun and the crit strap whatever that ones called.
Alexander.Helder
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By Alexander.Helder 2010-01-08 19:06:58
Bismarck.Dalimar said: If i where to set a budget, it would be 800k, i already have my Meditate set and ws set, just kinda liked the subtle blow for shedding hate, and the str and att is nice for any sam, i only use head, body hands and legs in my tp set, i use af boots, bull neck always str rings merman earing and minuet ear plus tiphia sting, hagun and the crit strap whatever that ones called.
head - walahra or askar = free
neck - spectacles if your really poor, chivy is really cheap now
earrings - bush if you have, brutal if you have...other then that fowling and merman will fit in your budget
body - hauby is cheap as hell right now
hands - hachiman no question
rings - woodsman are going for like 80k a pop on my server
back - amemet+1 is really good for any DD and will fit in your 800k
waist - swift belt, headlong if u have cash, virtuoso if you wanna camp nm, life belt is like 40k
pants - i used shinimusha till i got shura/byakko...
feet - camp quu domi the gallant for free haste +3
this will easily fit in your 800k budget and youll be decently geared.
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By Fairy.Vegetto 2010-01-08 19:08:25
Subtle blow doesn't help shed hate at all.
Get a turban for your TP set. That head doesn't come close to turban and turban should be free if you merit.
I can think of a cheap piece of gear that would be better suited than each piece of that gear and you could get all for much less than 800k, if you want.
Alexander.Helder
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By Alexander.Helder 2010-01-08 19:09:04
Bismarck.Dalimar said: Anyone else use any of the WoTG Fourth set for SAM TP gear? I use misc peices in my TP gear set and it seems ok, i need to finish my Store TP merit, but it my build gets me to a 5 hit WS (adding the TP from the ws). Just thought this would be a good topic, and any other budget suggestions would be great.
4th is really blah for sam id avoid it, unless you wanna use pants for WS cuz of str+4 until you get shura, if you ever get them.
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By Sylph.Beelshamen 2010-01-08 19:09:35
Alexander.Helder said: Sylph.Beelshamen said: Get rose strap instead, bra.
pole grip is like 4K lmao
I was talking about him wasting money on SAM TP gear when he can get rosestrap for sexy campaigning and situational use outside campaign.
Do you understand?
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By Fairy.Vegetto 2010-01-08 19:09:40
Alexander.Helder said: Bismarck.Dalimar said: If i where to set a budget, it would be 800k, i already have my Meditate set and ws set, just kinda liked the subtle blow for shedding hate, and the str and att is nice for any sam, i only use head, body hands and legs in my tp set, i use af boots, bull neck always str rings merman earing and minuet ear plus tiphia sting, hagun and the crit strap whatever that ones called.
head - walahra or askar = free
neck - spectacles if your really poor, chivy is really cheap now
earrings - bush if you have, brutal if you have...other then that fowling and merman will fit in your budget
body - hauby is cheap as hell right now
hands - hachiman no question
rings - woodsman are going for like 80k a pop on my server
back - amemet 1 is really good for any DD and will fit in your 800k
waist - swift belt, headlong if u have cash, virtuoso if you wanna camp nm, life belt is like 40k
pants - i used shinimusha till i got shura/byakko...
feet - camp quu domi the gallant for free haste 3
this will easily fit in your 800k budget and youll be decently geared. /thread
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By Sylph.Beelshamen 2010-01-08 19:12:39
Fairy.Vegetto said: Alexander.Helder said: Bismarck.Dalimar said: If i where to set a budget, it would be 800k, i already have my Meditate set and ws set, just kinda liked the subtle blow for shedding hate, and the str and att is nice for any sam, i only use head, body hands and legs in my tp set, i use af boots, bull neck always str rings merman earing and minuet ear plus tiphia sting, hagun and the crit strap whatever that ones called.
head - walahra or askar = free
neck - spectacles if your really poor, chivy is really cheap now
earrings - bush if you have, brutal if you have...other then that fowling and merman will fit in your budget
body - hauby is cheap as hell right now
hands - hachiman no question
rings - woodsman are going for like 80k a pop on my server
back - amemet 1 is really good for any DD and will fit in your 800k
waist - swift belt, headlong if u have cash, virtuoso if you wanna camp nm, life belt is like 40k
pants - i used shinimusha till i got shura/byakko...
feet - camp quu domi the gallant for free haste 3
this will easily fit in your 800k budget and youll be decently geared. /thread
No love for potent belt?
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By Fairy.Vegetto 2010-01-08 19:13:40
For TP'ing? definitely not
Alexander.Helder
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By Alexander.Helder 2010-01-08 19:15:54
Sylph.Beelshamen said: Fairy.Vegetto said: Alexander.Helder said: Bismarck.Dalimar said: If i where to set a budget, it would be 800k, i already have my Meditate set and ws set, just kinda liked the subtle blow for shedding hate, and the str and att is nice for any sam, i only use head, body hands and legs in my tp set, i use af boots, bull neck always str rings merman earing and minuet ear plus tiphia sting, hagun and the crit strap whatever that ones called.
head - walahra or askar = free
neck - spectacles if your really poor, chivy is really cheap now
earrings - bush if you have, brutal if you have...other then that fowling and merman will fit in your budget
body - hauby is cheap as hell right now
hands - hachiman no question
rings - woodsman are going for like 80k a pop on my server
back - amemet 1 is really good for any DD and will fit in your 800k
waist - swift belt, headlong if u have cash, virtuoso if you wanna camp nm, life belt is like 40k
pants - i used shinimusha till i got shura/byakko...
feet - camp quu domi the gallant for free haste 3
this will easily fit in your 800k budget and youll be decently geared. /thread
No love for potent belt?
for sam tp sacrificing 2 acc from life and 4 from virtuoso for 3 str doesnt make ANY sense. 3 str will not help you get your 6 hits any faster. Sam makes i think 70% of thier DMG through WS (vegetto would have to give exact number) so making sure you get those 6 hits in is crucial.
also life belt is 15k on my server and potent 55k so that just doesnt make sense you buy that for sam.
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By Sylph.Beelshamen 2010-01-08 19:18:06
Holy crap. What's happening? I thought Amemet 1 was like 500k. ><
Alexander.Helder
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By Alexander.Helder 2010-01-08 19:19:28
Sylph.Beelshamen said: Holy crap. What's happening? I thought Amemet 1 was like 500k. ><
not even foragers is at that price now, economy is going down alot for alot of the major DD pieces.
I really wish I bought alot of my DD gear at this time, prices are dirt cheap.
Alexander.Helder
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By Alexander.Helder 2010-01-08 19:23:30
man I love sam and I still can't do great penta dmg in bird camp meripos unless I have brd giving ACC+ATT or Brd+Cor Duo.
I've been thinking about war for RR or KJ for that but I would be without any hecatomb, I could make a decent SC build but against birds it sucks
any suggestion on penta vegetto? this is my gear
i go back and forth between relic head 10 acc and shura, cant make up my mind.
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By Fairy.Vegetto 2010-01-08 19:25:58
Any merits, and which food?
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By Alexander.Helder 2010-01-08 19:29:26
Fairy.Vegetto said: Any merits, and which food?
i have recently put 2 pole merits (have not merited since pole merits) and have 1 str merit.
I go back and forth between crab sushi and meat mithkabobs, i fly through food though since I always have hate. w/o food its like 500-800 which sucks.
with food penta does 800-1000 pretty consistantly but i do that with GK easily, usually 800-1400 with no food.
I Really want a Tomoe but its gonna be a *** to get no one sells it so far on my server.
with brd+cor i can easily hit 1k and do 1.2-1.5 ocassionaly, hard to get that combo right now on my server no one merits anymore.
Alexander.Helder
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By Alexander.Helder 2010-01-08 19:32:13
maybe i should just level drg and drakesbane to ***, but same problemo no hecagear and my sky shell is disbanding august and i dont know if ima be able to get w.legs (1 item per god)
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By Fairy.Vegetto 2010-01-08 19:33:36
I usualy bring 4 stacks of food to a party. Polearm is depdant on support. If you don't feel you can afford to eat, best off not even using polearm. I'd stick w/ crab sushi and go for double march as your best combo for brd songs + chaos roll w/ cor. Should be able to average 1-1.2kish w/ /war and won't need much acc in ws gear thanks to the sushi and can focus on more dmg gear. even if you can match it w/ gkt dmg, keep in mind you will ws more often and your DoT damage will go up as well.
I don't have much experience w/o capped polearm merits though, but it's what I hear.
Alexander.Helder
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By Alexander.Helder 2010-01-08 19:36:32
Fairy.Vegetto said: I usualy bring 4 stacks of food to a party. Polearm is depdant on support. If you don't feel you can afford to eat, best off not even using polearm. I'd stick w/ crab sushi and go for double march as your best combo for brd songs chaos roll w/ cor. Should be able to average 1-1.2kish w/ /war and won't need much acc in ws gear thanks to the sushi and can focus on more dmg gear. even if you can match it w/ gkt dmg, keep in mind you will ws more often and your DoT damage will go up as well.
I don't have much experience w/o capped polearm merits though, but it's what I hear.
yea im so torn because GK WS does much more (ive noticed a huge increase since getting snow gorget) and penta usually does close to the same if not a little less with a brd only, but the tp hits is like 150 compared to 70-90.
other then that you think the gear is okay? i know shadow gorget would help a shitload and maybe a couple other hard pieces like usu and tomoe.
Alexander.Helder
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By Alexander.Helder 2010-01-08 19:38:49
the only thing is polearm on every single bird i attract attention even if I dont WS because fo the TP dmg and food gets gobbled, so its kinda like a double edged sword.
Fenrir.Shindo
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By Fenrir.Shindo 2010-01-08 19:39:50
I gear myself differently from most new wave SAMs, but have you already exploited the 3 pieces from the add-on expansions? There's decent stuff to be had there if you tailor it specifically to SAM.
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By Fairy.Vegetto 2010-01-08 19:40:19
I get much higher w/ polearm, but I have full polearm merits and fulltime meat.
For ws gear, can't rly add much there, except maybe a merman's instead of bushi. The rest just depends on your support.
Alexander.Helder
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By Alexander.Helder 2010-01-08 19:44:49
Fairy.Vegetto said: I get much higher w/ polearm, but I have full polearm merits and fulltime meat.
For ws gear, can't rly add much there, except maybe a merman's instead of bushi. The rest just depends on your support.
yea i WOULD merit polearm to full but im so spaz on how bout if I wanna level another DD to 75, but I can't decide on another DD because of the lack of certain pieces and I spent alot of time taking SAM to respectable levels I don't know if I want to do that again. So all in all full pole along with my full GK might be what I might do.
I guess ill just have to merit pole, really get my *** moving on farming UFO's, get lucky on a seller of tomoe and not be cheap with food.
thanks man, I wish you were on my server you know a ***ton. Atleast I know gear is not sooooo much the problem now, appreciate your time.
Alexander.Helder
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By Alexander.Helder 2010-01-08 19:54:24
Fairy.Vegetto said: I get much higher w/ polearm, but I have full polearm merits and fulltime meat.
For ws gear, can't rly add much there, except maybe a merman's instead of bushi. The rest just depends on your support.
I also just remembered you have cuchi, that must make such a world of difference on its own.
Anyone else use any of the WoTG Fourth set for SAM TP gear? I use misc peices in my TP gear set and it seems ok, i need to finish my Store TP merit, but it my build gets me to a 5 hit WS (adding the TP from the ws). Just thought this would be a good topic, and any other budget suggestions would be great.
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