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Yet another SAM gear advice thread
Ok so my LS is giving me a hard time on my new sam so I was wondering what I should be wearing for fulltime. Currently I have the ACP body with ACC+10 and Double Attack+2 which seems like a good TP piece for over time damage and they tell me I should wear a Hauby or Hauby +1 for the att and WS with it as well because it's better than my Hachiman Domaru. The second item is my Forager's Mantle and Smilodon +1 which they say I should just throw out and full time Forager's. Now I may not have played SAM for very long but I could at least think for 1 hit weapon skills stacking STR and decent acc is enough for WS gear right? Some expert advice would be great.
Brisk i would suggest that ppl in your ls know what they are talking about. Why not give it a shot and try it both ways? :p.
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pretty sure forager's is main time thing unless you have like cerb+1 or whatever, next id shoot for is osode and af+1 hands or alky for ws. sea gorgets make a noticeable difference too. as far as hauby and +1 vs. your nuevo, hauby wins, if ya dont believe me go parse it on birds or something not too stressful, or you could just take a lot of peoples word on it >.> anyway hope that helps a bit. sam POWA
Reaugment your body with 4 sTP + 10 ACC, the rest of your gear is fine.
Siren.Stewie said: Reaugment your body with 4 sTP 10 ACC, the rest of your gear is fine. Fenrir.Nightfyre said: Siren.Stewie said: Reaugment your body with 4 sTP 10 ACC, the rest of your gear is fine. With 5/5 Store TP merits that's true, I didn't see if he had that or not, I'm just gonna assume he does. If not, he'll want to change gear slightly. Aye, I was assuming 5/5 STP merits with that.
Yeah I agree /breaklinkshell
1.) Hauby full time is ***-tarded- ACP is alot alot better than Haub for TP gain. 2.) If you don't have osode ... Hachiman is fine for WS 3.)Forgers Full time ONLY if you're out of gear swapping macro space Like I was. Cerb Mantle better fulltime if you go /thf to a lot of endgame. 4.) Get some damn Gorgets to replace that nasty neck piece 5.) Hachiman kote+1 over dusk IMO Leviathan.Ashitaka said: 1.) Hauby full time is ***-tarded- ACP is alot alot better than Haub for TP gain. Quote: 2.) If you don't have osode ... Hachiman is fine for WS Quote: 3.)Forgers Full time ONLY if you're out of gear swapping macro space Like I was. Cerb Mantle better fulltime if you go /thf to a lot of endgame. Quote: 4.) Get some damn Gorgets to replace that nasty neck piece Quote: 5.) Hachiman kote 1 over dusk IMO I guess you're not realizing how little ATTK effects SAM and how 3% haste is < to Store tp +9.. I don;t know you're haste setup but relying on 3% is nothing to STP. I've tested . Thanks
RE: Attack: You can't read or you don't understand pDIF, depending on which portion of my post you were referring to.
RE: STP: Both setups have a 6-hit. Go away. EDIT: Actually, I explained when Attack is and isn't useful in... two posts in this thread. Hmm. Nevermind, you just can't read. Ashitaka, you're wrong. The 20% haste build (read: Rajas, Brutal, Ecphoria, Rose Strap) beats every other non-usukane build there is. Either you're HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE, or trolling. It'd better be the latter. Stop *** with the OP either way.
OP: Try to use this setup: http://www.ffxiah.com/item_sets.php?id=77700 I used this before I obtained Usukane. It's a wonderful set, and I'd recommend it over any ***-tastic Hachi build. It also allows you to WS in full STR, everywhere you can pack it in, as long as you fulltime Rajas/Brutal. This was actually my WS set, so you can see the two combined: http://www.ffxiah.com/item_sets.php?id=103530 Please don't listen to any trolls in here, I assure you this is the way to go. If you don't want to use a Haubergeon (Please god use a Haub, it's better than ACP, and nearly free anymore...), do NOT use Askar Korazin for your Store TP needs on a body piece. The lack of accuracy is terrible. You'll end up in a "LOLSAM" pic thread before long, trust me. If you insist on ACP body, get sTP+4/ACC+10 augments on it over anything else. Leviathan.Ashitaka said: Yeah I agree /breaklinkshell 1.) Hauby full time is ***-tarded- ACP is alot alot better than Haub for TP gain. 2.) If you don't have osode ... Hachiman is fine for WS 3.)Forgers Full time ONLY if you're out of gear swapping macro space Like I was. Cerb Mantle better fulltime if you go /thf to a lot of endgame. 4.) Get some damn Gorgets to replace that nasty neck piece 5.) Hachiman kote 1 over dusk IMO Leviathan.Ashitaka said: Stuff Using an Axe Grip :( Both are 6 hit so the Store TP might as well be Store TP + 0. Shiva.Brisk said: Ok so my LS is giving me a hard time on my new sam so I was wondering what I should be wearing for fulltime. Currently I have the ACP body with ACC 10 and Double Attack 2 which seems like a good TP piece for over time damage and they tell me I should wear a Hauby or Hauby 1 for the att and WS with it as well because it's better than my Hachiman Domaru. The second item is my Forager's Mantle and Smilodon 1 which they say I should just throw out and full time Forager's. Now I may not have played SAM for very long but I could at least think for 1 hit weapon skills stacking STR and decent acc is enough for WS gear right? Some expert advice would be great. This is what I use for TP This is what I use for WS for TP im missing PCC for neck otherwise im fine for WS im missing nothing really Im elvan so I already got a shitload STR I can break most monsters defence and I don't HNM so i prefer 15 att from foragers then 2 str from smilodens. otherwise what i have is generally considered pre-usukane perfect gear except for +1's and PCC This is what I use for penta
However I am missing a bit of gear and polearm merits would be huge. however I do pretty good in meripo's with brd giving acc and att, more then 1K consistatly with ACC food doing like 1.2k easy. like I said though a bit of gear missing. Shadow gorget being a major missing gear piece. Also working a virtuoso belt for some more umph. Honestly gettin rid of Smi +1 for ws and the hauby vs hach? really? Aint no way anyone in your ls has a full time SAM. On one hit WS u want to stack as much STR as you can. Hauby is great for TP dont ws in it tho, Hach Domaru is alot better for Ws. I personally use Cerb for tp and ws in smioldon, i dont have access to haidate and i use Cerb on my pld as well so its a ez investment for me vs foragers. But i agree with the others sounds like your ls doesnt have alot of sams.
You'd actually want the atk if you're doing HNM, smilo if you're doing merit lvl stuff, if I'm not mistaken.
In regards to Smilodon +1, it's actually better to use Forager's or Cerb+1 for Yuki and Kasha, but Gekko has a slightly higher attack boost in comparison to the other two, and on most mobs you'll be just fine using Smilo+1.
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Leviathan.Ashitaka said: Yeah I agree /breaklinkshell 1.) Hauby full time is ***-tarded- ACP is alot alot better than Haub for TP gain. 2.) If you don't have osode ... Hachiman is fine for WS 3.)Forgers Full time ONLY if you're out of gear swapping macro space Like I was. Cerb Mantle better fulltime if you go /thf to a lot of endgame. 4.) Get some damn Gorgets to replace that nasty neck piece 5.) Hachiman kote 1 over dusk IMO 1) Hauby +1 full time is far superior to ACP body, NQ hauby is on parse 2) Hauby +1 is better than osode for weaponskill unless /thf. Domaru is not fine 5) yes Alexander.Helder said: otherwise what i have is generally considered pre-usukane perfect gear except for 1's and PCC Fenrir.Nightfyre said: Rose/Rajas/Brutal/Ecphoria with the first 3 fulltimed beats the ***out of a Hachi build. Pandemonium.Vincentius said: The 20% haste build (read: Rajas, Brutal, Ecphoria, Rose Strap) beats every other non-usukane build there is. aaaaaand... Quote: However I am missing a bit of gear and polearm merits would be huge. however I do pretty good in meripo's with brd giving acc and att, more then 1K consistatly with ACC food doing like 1.2k easy. March/March and pop Sushi like a boss. Min/Min if we're talking about a second BRD here unless you're all sushi poppers and could swap to Mithkabobs, in which case you're doing it right (ie March/March/Min/Mad/Mithkabobs). Hades.Exion said: 2) Hauby 1 is better than osode for weaponskill unless /thf. Domaru is not fine Hades.Exion said: Leviathan.Ashitaka said: Yeah I agree /breaklinkshell 1.) Hauby full time is ***-tarded- ACP is alot alot better than Haub for TP gain. 2.) If you don't have osode ... Hachiman is fine for WS 3.)Forgers Full time ONLY if you're out of gear swapping macro space Like I was. Cerb Mantle better fulltime if you go /thf to a lot of endgame. 4.) Get some damn Gorgets to replace that nasty neck piece 5.) Hachiman kote 1 over dusk IMO 1) Hauby 1 full time is far superior to ACP body, NQ hauby is on parse 2) Hauby 1 is better than osode for weaponskill unless /thf. Domaru is not fine 5) yes 1) No. 2) Gekko/Yuki/Kasha get a huge accuracy bonus innately, you're wrong. 5) Learn the formulas or -> Why do you tp in Ace's Helm? Haub+1 is crap for WS in comparison to Osode. 1-hit WS get an INSANE accuracy bonus to the point of capping you on almost anything. And no, NQ haub is better than ACP body, unless you get ACC/ATT on ACP, which puts them equal.
Trollllllllllllllllll. Siren.Stewie said: Hades.Exion said: Leviathan.Ashitaka said: Yeah I agree /breaklinkshell 1.) Hauby full time is ***-tarded- ACP is alot alot better than Haub for TP gain. 2.) If you don't have osode ... Hachiman is fine for WS 3.)Forgers Full time ONLY if you're out of gear swapping macro space Like I was. Cerb Mantle better fulltime if you go /thf to a lot of endgame. 4.) Get some damn Gorgets to replace that nasty neck piece 5.) Hachiman kote 1 over dusk IMO 1) Hauby 1 full time is far superior to ACP body, NQ hauby is on parse 2) Hauby 1 is better than osode for weaponskill unless /thf. Domaru is not fine 5) yes 1) No. 2) Gekko/Yuki/Kasha get a huge accuracy bonus innately, you're wrong. 5) Learn the formulas or -> Why do you tp in Ace's Helm? did you just say why do you tp in ace's helm? 7 acc or 1% haste. easy choice IMO |
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