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By Ruaumoko 2018-01-19 23:30:03  


Looked into it and this is indeed the first time this has happened.
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By Nausi 2018-01-20 00:40:45  
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How can a governing party hold power over all branches of government yet still fail to prevent a shutdown?
Because you need 60 votes to bring bills past the point of debate before you can vote them with a majority.

As the Party in power only has a 51 seat majority, they need 9 democrat votes to bring the bill to the floor.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2018-01-20 00:50:16  
That's what happens when the party with no real power makes a desperate power play in an attempt to appear relevant again. Keep an eye out for lovely attack ads on the 10 Democrat Senators up for election in states that voted for Trump. The ads will be sure to point out how they threw the military under the bus in favor of protecting illegal immigrants.

That being said, essential services will continue. Government employees that aren't allowed to work during a shutdown will get back pay when it's over. There is talk of putting a contingency plan together to keep national parks going for anyone who likes visiting those in January. A shutdown still sucks for some people, but it's not the catastrophe the media makes it out to be.
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By clearlyamule 2018-01-20 02:15:40  
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
And today Republicans are viewed as more responsible for any shutdown by a 20% margin. All to get the talking points that the donor class, grateful for the tax cuts, will amply with dark monied megaphones.
I mean what's new? The same people that blamed them when dems were in control are going to blame them now and would still blame them even if they had a super majority in every governing body in the country.

When was there a shutdown with Dems in full control?
I didn't say full. Shutdowns aren't exactly common and neither is full control.
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By clearlyamule 2018-01-20 02:17:06  
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We should just shut it down for a year. Give it time to reboot properly
It works for my modem gdi! Then again it's Comcast telling me to do this...
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By Garuda.Chanti 2018-01-20 09:19:55  
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Chanti doesn’t it wear you down after awhile; telling yourself lies, knowing they’re lies and believing the lies? Can you tell me wtf rushing a deal to legalize illegal immigrants has to do with the Democrats responsibility to fund the government?
I am just REALLY enjoying the shitshow. Nothing more.

/popcorn
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By Garuda.Chanti 2018-01-20 09:21:56  
Nausi said: »
Ruaumoko said: »
How can a governing party hold power over all branches of government yet still fail to prevent a shutdown?
Because you need 60 votes to bring bills past the point of debate before you can vote them with a majority.

As the Party in power only has a 51 seat majority, they need 9 democrat votes to bring the bill to the floor.
But three republicans are against it, and McCain is not present. So they need 13 democrats and only have one.
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By Asura.Saevel 2018-01-20 09:50:02  
Ruaumoko said: »
How can a governing party hold power over all branches of government yet still fail to prevent a shutdown?

Because you don't understand the US government and election system. Unlike most other governments it's deliberately designed to prevent one entity from obtaining ultimate power and just doing whatever they want. "Controlling" doesn't mean 51%, it means 2/3rds votes to break a filibuster.
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By fonewear 2018-01-20 10:14:04  
Ruaumoko said: »
How can a governing party hold power over all branches of government yet still fail to prevent a shutdown?

If a tree falls in a forest does it make a sound ?
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By Garuda.Chanti 2018-01-20 10:27:14  
Asura.Saevel said: »
Ruaumoko said: »
How can a governing party hold power over all branches of government yet still fail to prevent a shutdown?

Because you don't understand the US government and election system. Unlike most other governments it's deliberately designed to prevent one entity from obtaining ultimate power and just doing whatever they want. "Controlling" doesn't mean 51%, it means 2/3rds votes to break a filibuster.
Sorry Saevel but 60/100 =/= 2/3.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2018-01-20 10:28:20  
fonewear said: »
Ruaumoko said: »
How can a governing party hold power over all branches of government yet still fail to prevent a shutdown?
If a tree falls in a forest does it make a sound ?

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By fonewear 2018-01-20 10:41:15  
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How can a governing party hold power over all branches of government yet still fail to prevent a shutdown?
If a tree falls in a forest does it make a sound ?


Yea me clapping !
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By fonewear 2018-01-20 10:42:17  
I hope he did have sex with a porn star. And they put in in his Presidential library. Just like the blue dress should be in Bill's library.
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By fonewear 2018-01-20 10:44:53  
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I find it funny how the GOPigs are trying to pin the blame on the Democrats for this one, while forgetting the Dems kept attempting to offer compromises in exchange for their votes. Compromises the GOPigs kept flinging in the trash can.

GOPigs very clever did you think of that all by yourself ?
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By fonewear 2018-01-20 10:49:26  
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
That's what happens when the party with no real power makes a desperate power play in an attempt to appear relevant again. Keep an eye out for lovely attack ads on the 10 Democrat Senators up for election in states that voted for Trump. The ads will be sure to point out how they threw the military under the bus in favor of protecting illegal immigrants.

That being said, essential services will continue. Government employees that aren't allowed to work during a shutdown will get back pay when it's over. There is talk of putting a contingency plan together to keep national parks going for anyone who likes visiting those in January. A shutdown still sucks for some people, but it's not the catastrophe the media makes it out to be.

I think we should shut the government down more often. The media hysteria is very entertaining.
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By fonewear 2018-01-20 10:51:14  
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By Zerowone 2018-01-20 11:18:15  
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I hope he did have sex with a porn star. And they put in in his Presidential library. Just like the blue dress should be in Bill's library.

He did. As much as lawyer is trying to say otherwise with signed NDA from years ago, there are interviews that happened before hand in 2011.

Chapter 11: Not to be outdone by Dems, Donald Trump paid Stormy Daniels to raw dog her in 2006.

http://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/stormy-daniels-full-interview-151788
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By fonewear 2018-01-20 11:20:51  
Stormy Daniels should run in 2020. There already is some other porn start said she wants to run. Bring on the circus.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2018-01-20 13:00:00  
Daniels did explore a senate run, her proposed campaign slogan was "Stormy Daniels, screwing people honestly."

http://www.newsweek.com/stormy-daniels-senate-run-porn-star-slogan-screwing-people-honestly-784618
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By fonewear 2018-01-20 13:01:00  
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Daniels did explore a senate run, her proposed campaign slogan was "Stormy Daniels, screwing people honestly."

http://www.newsweek.com/stormy-daniels-senate-run-porn-star-slogan-screwing-people-honestly-784618

Still probably better than Chuck Schumer.
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By fonewear 2018-01-20 13:01:57  
I can separate the porn star from the person...just try to picture them with clothes on !
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By clearlyamule 2018-01-20 13:20:27  
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I can separate the porn star from the person...just try to picture them with clothes on !
You don't even have to picture them. Pron sfw puts badly ms painted clothes onto all kinds of porn
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By fonewear 2018-01-20 13:22:45  
clearlyamule said: »
fonewear said: »
I can separate the porn star from the person...just try to picture them with clothes on !
You don't even have to picture them. Pron sfw puts badly ms painted clothes onto all kinds of porn

The best thing I've ever watched is the porn star awards. It's way better than the Oscars. They got best gang bang best DP etc etc.
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2018-01-20 14:27:21  
Get out there and celebrate ladies!

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By fonewear 2018-01-20 14:29:30  
Meanwhile other women are marching with pussy hats and leaving cats unattended at home.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2018-01-20 16:15:34  
Deutsche Bank Investigating Jared Kushner, His Companies For Suspicious Money Transfers: Report

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According to an article in Manager Magazin — a German monthly business magazine — Deutsche Bank could have evidence about suspicious money transfers by President Donald Trump's son-in-law and White House senior adviser, Jared Kushner, along with his companies and the people working for him.

The information, considered suspicious by the bank, has been submitted to the Federal Financial Supervisory Authority for Germany, BaFin. The magazine said that the information will be sent to U.S. special counsel Robert Mueller who heads the investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 presidential elections....
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Michael Wolff’s book “Fire and Fury: Inside the Trump White House” threw former White House chief strategist Steve Bannon back in the spotlight. The book quoted Bannon saying: “You realize where this is going. This is all about money laundering.”
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By Anna Ruthven 2018-01-20 16:44:44  
clearlyamule said: »
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I can separate the porn star from the person...just try to picture them with clothes on !
You don't even have to picture them. Pron sfw puts badly ms painted clothes onto all kinds of porn
The most hilarious one is the girl with the badly drawn joystick saying "I love gaming" but in reality....she was giving a beej.
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