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By Fenrir.Snaps 2017-11-08 00:36:30  
Ordelle's Caves results~

3x(3) Rune Halberd
6x(6) Rune Bow
72x(12) Rune Arrow
5x(5) Rune Bangles
152x(19) Cermet Chunk
22x(11) Adaman Nugget
3x(3) Arcane Flowerpot

JP wiki listed Rune Sword on this but I never received one. If Algol comes from this zone then it's super rare. I'll try a different zone next.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2017-11-08 01:15:24  
I really don't think there is a higher rate per item per zone.

It's what I originally asked about on the first page: which zone had the best dagger% etc.

I did ~100 Dangruf and got zero *item, only arrows pots and cermet
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By Fenrir.Snaps 2017-11-08 01:25:54  
They definitely drop more frequently in specific zones. That's been reflected in both the data I collected in Wadi (20+ Rune Baghnakhs to 1 Rune Algol...) and in Ordelle's Caves (6 Rune Bows to 3 Rune Halberds). Both of those items match what was predicted on jp wiki. Rune Kris, Rune Algol, and Rune Scythe are all new. It is unclear what kind of distribution these new items have.
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By Sylph.Oraen 2017-11-08 15:43:42  
I only had 12 trades, so my pool is very limited, but here's what I got.

Gusgen Mines:

18x Rune Arrow (3)
10x Adaman Nugget (5)
16x Cermet Chunk (2)
1x Arcane Flowerpot (1)
1x Rune Scythe (1)

I'll try more later, but being on Sylph means no supply of cores outside of my own, so the results will be much smaller.
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By Fenrir.Snaps 2017-11-08 15:51:05  
Gusgen is listed on the jp wiki for scythe on the left side, so maybe that's the high drop rate zone for that item?
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By Sylph.Oraen 2017-11-08 18:31:48  
Dangruf Wadi this time, because I want that damn algol.

2x adaman nuggets (1)
48x cermet chunks (6)
6x rune arrows (1)
1x Rune Bangles (1)
2x Rune Baghnakhs (2)
1x Arcane flowerpot (1)


EDIT: Done on Firesday for the fire apparatus, which BG states may have a negative effect on rarity. I sincerely doubt it, but just stating it for completion's sake.
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By Fenrir.Snaps 2017-11-08 18:35:51  
I think for the new weapons it would be good to test other zones. I don't plan on going back to Wadi until I do. There is definitely a zone with a high drop rate for the old weapons (you already got 2 h2h in your small test.) I'm hoping that's the case for the new weapons as well and that SE didn't do something like add the new weapons to every zone with a low drop rate. We went 1/80~ for Wadi... so yeah.
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By Sylph.Oraen 2017-11-08 18:38:32  
Yeah, next will be one of the ones not listed on the JP wiki with confirmed drops. I was honestly just praying to get lucky and be able to get my raetic crafted while I tested on other spots.
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By Afania 2017-11-10 03:08:53  
Did some real quick raetic bangles testing before bed:

1) Magic dmg can be absorbed.

2) The absorb proc rate def isnt equal to mp drained. Drained 56 mp, got hit 56 times, absorb only proc 5 times. Proc rate is very low, but I need bigger sample size to confirm the detail when I have time.
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By Fenrir.Snaps 2017-11-10 03:10:33  
Regarding Raetic Bangles, they're probably BiS for RUN resolution. So much STR
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By Afania 2017-11-10 03:25:57  
Im just eyeballing but it doesnt seem like clear winner v.s adhemar +1 path B.
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By Fenrir.Skarwind 2017-11-10 05:38:05  
Raetic arrows are the stupidest/most expensive synth ever.
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By geigei 2017-11-10 06:00:58  
Afania said: »
Im just eyeballing but it doesnt seem like clear winner v.s adhemar +1 path B.

They inferior to nq adheamr actually.
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By clearlyamule 2017-11-10 10:41:39  
Afania said: »
Did some real quick raetic bangles testing before bed:

1) Magic dmg can be absorbed.

2) The absorb proc rate def isnt equal to mp drained. Drained 56 mp, got hit 56 times, absorb only proc 5 times. Proc rate is very low, but I need bigger sample size to confirm the detail when I have time.
Disappointing but not unexpected. iirc other absorb gear made it see like there either was a rather low cap or just that pieces didn't stack
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By Fenrir.Snaps 2017-11-10 11:36:55  
30 trades in Crawlers' Nest

Rune Kris x2 (2)
Rune Blade x1 (1)
Rune Axe x4 (4)
Rune Arrow x42 (7)
Arcane Flowerpot x4 (4)
Cermet Chunk x72 (12)
Adaman Nugget x6 (3)

So unless I got really lucky I would say the good zone for Rune Kris is Crawlers' Nest. This gives me hope that there is a good zone for Rune Algol too.
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By Fenrir.Snaps 2017-11-10 11:58:47  
30 trades in Outter Horutoto Ruins

4x Rune Halberd (4)
3x Rune Staff (3)
30x Rune Arrow (5)
2x Rune Bangles (2)
96x Cermet Chunks (12)
8x Adaman Nugget (4)

My guess for Rune Algol is Garlaige Citadel but I can't test that until later tonight.
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By Fenrir.Snaps 2017-11-11 00:16:01  
Garlaige Citadel

1x Rune Bagnakhs (1)
7x Rune Staff (7)
24x Rune Arrow (4)
1x Rune Bangles (1)
2x Arcane Flowerpot (2)
88x Cermet Chunks (11)
8x Adaman Nugget (4)
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By Fenrir.Snaps 2017-11-14 10:56:31  
The Eldieme Necropolis
2x Rune Blade (2)
1x Rune Scythe (1)
60x Rune Arrows (10)
1x Rune Bangles (1)
3x Arcane Flowerpot (3)
64x Cermet Chunk (8)
10x Adaman Nugget (5)
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By Fenrir.Snaps 2017-11-14 11:10:27  
Maze of Shakhrami
1x Rune Chopper (1)
1x Rune Rod (1)
24x Rune Arrow (4)
3x Rune Bangles (3)
2x Arcane Flowerpot (2)
14x Adaman Nugget (7)
88x Cermet Chunk (11)
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By Fenrir.Snaps 2017-11-27 01:17:28  
Was able to borrow a raetic sword +1 for a bit and tested it. The Store TP effect is different than what I was expecting, but actually better. It procs on every single attack round for the first attack in the round. If you're offhanding it, it procs on the first strike for your offhand. The extra Store TP = MP Consumed/2 (half the double attack rate.)
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By Staleyx 2017-11-27 01:34:16  
Snaps do dangruf wadi or whatever for algol. Pulled 3 in a row there.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2017-11-27 08:19:35  
Fenrir.Snaps said: »
Was able to borrow a raetic sword +1 for a bit and tested it. The Store TP effect is different than what I was expecting, but actually better. It procs on every single attack round for the first attack in the round. If you're offhanding it, it procs on the first strike for your offhand. The extra Store TP = MP Consumed/2 (half the double attack rate.)
just messing around with my drg sim with that information, it was a extremely large boost (over 30%) over the NQ. I may have had a bug, though, since I was in a rush to get to work.
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By Fenrir.Snaps 2017-11-27 09:31:02  
Staleyx said: »
Snaps do dangruf wadi or whatever for algol. Pulled 3 in a row there.

I've been doing Ordelle's. I know that each of the new weapons can be found in two zones. The drop rate might be equal for both or higher for one. Not sure. My guess would be the following.

Rune Scythe: Gusgen -> Eldieme
Rune Kris : Crawlers -> Shakhrami
Rune Algol : Ordelles -> Wadi
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By Excellia 2017-11-27 09:50:10  
Just in case it was overlooked by someone, I think I remember reading somewhere that you got better results for armor/weps when trading on the day that was opposite of the element of the apparatus. Not sure that was ever really confirmed. Doctor status definitely helped.
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By Excellia 2017-11-27 12:14:10  
Went looking for some scythes earlier and here are my findings.
Gusgen on lightning day, x36 trades and got:
Rune Chopper x6
Rune Scythe x2
Rune Bangles x5
Rune Arrows x4
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By Afania 2017-11-27 14:07:25  
Fenrir.Snaps said: »
Was able to borrow a raetic sword +1 for a bit and tested it. The Store TP effect is different than what I was expecting, but actually better. It procs on every single attack round for the first attack in the round. If you're offhanding it, it procs on the first strike for your offhand. The extra Store TP = MP Consumed/2 (half the double attack rate.)


Thanks for the test and updated 1st page!
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By clearlyamule 2017-11-27 14:35:28  
Fenrir.Snaps said: »
Was able to borrow a raetic sword +1 for a bit and tested it. The Store TP effect is different than what I was expecting, but actually better. It procs on every single attack round for the first attack in the round. If you're offhanding it, it procs on the first strike for your offhand. The extra Store TP = MP Consumed/2 (half the double attack rate.)
So need to consume 100 mp to get full stp so would need 2k mp... not really possible on a lot of jobs and certainly not maintainable. Well another win for blu and drk I guess lol. Regular melees probably gunna be stuck at 10-20 assuming they have refresh to maintain
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By Fenrir.Snaps 2017-11-27 14:53:14  
You shouldn't worry too much about getting the full effect. I can't remember my exact MP total on WAR in Escha but I remember it being more than 500, maybe even more than 600. Even with just that Raetic Algol blows away the competition and your mana gets restored between fights. For situations like Dynamis or whatever where you don't get mana restored on a regular basis, I think you'll need Heavenward Howl. I don't feel it's worth the effort or cost to use any additional mana buffs otherwise. Raetic Scythe might be feasible in those situations as well because of Entropy.
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By clearlyamule 2017-11-27 15:11:30  
Well just remember vorseals give a good 200 mp so non mp jobs aren't going to be having tons though will depend on job and what otherwise optimal gear choices are. iirc my rng is only around 300 in it's midshot set.

And while geas fete does restore mp each fight remember with attack speeds being what they are it's quite possible to deplete your pool in 30 seconds or so. Luckily refresh vorseals will help some there but ws swapping might kill some too (time to start locking some pieces if they lower your current mp lol?) so will probably need some form of mp regeneration. Howl's a pretty good choice though since it's gain rate chances with attack speed to keep matching depletion and at the right phase 2hrs probably gain more than they lose. Maybe aspir samba for similar reason
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By Afania 2017-11-27 15:15:07  
Fenrir.Snaps said: »
Raetic Scythe might be feasible in those situations as well because of Entropy.

It's always possible to just switch weapon to scythe every 5 ws.
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