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By Jetackuu 2016-02-09 12:45:45  
Who the *** fills up a 20 gallon tank twice a week every week?
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By Siren.Mosin 2016-02-09 12:47:36  
I do in my company rig, but they pay the gas bill as well, so I don't really care.

25 gallon tank btw
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By Jetackuu 2016-02-09 13:15:41  
Siren.Mosin said: »
I do in my company rig, but they pay the gas bill as well, so I don't really care.

25 gallon tank btw
You know full well what I meant, sir.
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By Jetackuu 2016-02-09 14:07:17  
Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
Jetackuu said: »
Who the *** fills up a 20 gallon tank twice a week every week?

The middle & poor class with their Hummers. A real plague in America.

Indeed.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2016-02-09 14:19:47  
Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
Jetackuu said: »
Who the *** fills up a 20 gallon tank twice a week every week?

The middle & poor class with their Hummers. A real plague in America.

Overcompensating never guzzled so much gas.
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By dustinfoley 2016-02-09 14:20:21  
Or anyone who commutes 40 miles a day (80 round trip).

Sometimes you live where its best for kids/near spouse who has better job.

And for the record I am not poor, but i am middle class, and i drive a car that gets 350 miles between fuel ups (400 if i push it to the gas light coming on).

Has nothing to do with over compensating or driving a hummer.
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By Altimaomega 2016-02-09 14:40:59  
That doesn't fit the agenda they are being lead to believe in.
Notice the complete lack of thought and vague assumptions they cling to. These are the same people that "supposedly" want to help the poor and middle class but lack foresight and simply do w/e their chosen ones tell them is best.
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By Jetackuu 2016-02-09 15:07:30  
Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
dustinfoley said: »
Or anyone who commutes 40 miles a day (80 round trip).

Sometimes you live where its best for kids/near spouse who has better job.

And for the record I am not poor, but i am middle class, and i drive a car that gets 350 miles between fuel ups (400 if i push it to the gas light coming on).

Has nothing to do with over compensating or driving a hummer.

That's nowhere near having to fill up 40 gallons a week.

Indeed, I drive 60-80 miles a day easily and still usually only fill up once a week (about 13 gallons).
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By Jetackuu 2016-02-09 15:07:54  
Altimaomega said: »
That doesn't fit the agenda they are being lead to believe in.
Notice the complete lack of thought and vague assumptions they cling to. These are the same people that "supposedly" want to help the poor and middle class but lack foresight and simply do w/e their chosen ones tell them is best.
You really need to get bent with the "us vs them" *** that you keep spewing.

Seriously, grow the *** up.
 
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By Altimaomega 2016-02-09 15:13:25  
Surprise! Some people drive less than others depending on their location and job! Screw those people that are required to drive farther or even for a living! They must be part of that 1% crowd and need to be taxed more than we mere peasants that only require 13 gallons a week.

The compassion and self sacrifice coming from the left side of this forum is as always, astounding.
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By Jetackuu 2016-02-09 15:16:37  
I'm not on the "left side" I'm just not a dumbass. Not to mention the pure hypocrisy and stupidity from that statement.
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By Altimaomega 2016-02-09 15:20:21  
Jetackuu said: »
I'm not just not a dumbass.

Okay.
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By Jetackuu 2016-02-09 15:24:02  
An actual typo (because I got interrupted when typing), the irony of you going after anyone for the structure of their sentence is just too damn high.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2016-02-09 15:25:33  
Someone missed their nap.
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By Bloodrose 2016-02-09 15:40:10  
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Someone missed their nap.
Damn right I did.

*sigh* I need more sleep.
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By Siren.Mosin 2016-02-09 16:20:22  
The real point is that fossil fuels are finite. As much as I believe Obama to be a lackluster president, this is one issue he's had right from day one. time to start working on a fuel source that doesn't empower people with backwards beliefs half a world away.
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By Altimaomega 2016-02-09 18:15:06  
Siren.Mosin said: »
The real point is that fossil fuels are finite. As much as I believe Obama to be a lackluster president, this is one issue he's had right from day one. time to start working on a fuel source that doesn't empower people with backwards beliefs half a world away.

Perhaps we should talk about not subsidizing the oil industry instead of even more taxes that won't get used the way they are meant.

Siren.Mosin said: »
time to start working on a fuel source
Excellent idea! I wonder what all these "green companies" have been doing all these years?

Jetackuu said: »
An actual typo (because I got interrupted when typing), the irony of you going after anyone for the structure of their sentence is just too damn high.

The irony here is you over looking what I quoted you saying and thinking I care about your sentence structure.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2016-02-09 18:22:46  
Improving their craft. Carbon is still point for more point more energy and thus still remains dominant. Nuclear is dead in the water considering Americans are terrified of it and other sources are dependant on location.

Somehow in America, driving a hybrid becomes a political issue and if you're electric? Flamig liberal.

Lower gas prices means less people care about green energy. Bad given Saudi Arabia has two exports: oil and terror. Hell, every candidate not named Sanders has all but promised more war in the ME if elected. Wonderful.
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By Altimaomega 2016-02-09 18:29:45  
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By Garuda.Chanti 2016-02-09 19:04:53  
Altimaomega said: »
Siren.Mosin said: »
The real point is that fossil fuels are finite. As much as I believe Obama to be a lackluster president, this is one issue he's had right from day one. time to start working on a fuel source that doesn't empower people with backwards beliefs half a world away.
Perhaps we should talk about not subsidizing the oil industry instead of even more taxes that won't get used the way they are meant.
Bingo!

See gang? I told you he wasn't as dumb as most here think. And if everyone handled cows like he does there would be a LOT less bovine methane emissions.

But despite that:

Garuda.Chanti said: »
Altimaomega said: »
Also, do you math bro?
Altimaomega said: »
Obama wants to add a 25 cent gas tax on every gallon of gas
Please Mr math wiz explain/ how $10/barrel = $.25/gallon.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2016-02-09 19:09:56  
John Kasich, Poised for Solid Finish in N.H., Looks Ahead
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And to me so far the best news from the GOP contest to date.
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CONCORD, N.H. – Ohio Gov. John Kasich, confident of a strong finish in Tuesday’s Republican presidential primary in New Hampshire, allowed himself Tuesday to look a little further down the calendar.

“We take our snow boots off and put our flip-flops on,” Mr. Kasich told reporters outside a polling site here. “We’re going to go to South Carolina. We’ll go tonight.”

The Ohio governor joked about how his campaign bus was “spotted” in Washington, D.C., en route to the Palmetto State, site of the next Republican nominating contest once all the ballots are counted in New Hampshire.

Many public-opinion surveys show Mr. Kasich in second in the Granite State, behind New York businessman Donald Trump, and even rival campaigns concede he will likely win the heated battle for silver in the first-in-the-nation primary.

On Tuesday, Mr. Kasich said he was “looking forward” to competing in contests later in the calendar, including Nevada on Feb. 23, Alabama and Georgia on March 1 and Mississippi on March 8. He also announced he is campaigning Monday and Tuesday in Michigan, which also votes on March 8.

The big question facing Mr. Kasich and other under-funded candidates is whether they will have the money and organization to compete in some of those states. Mr. Kasich, after all, has invested nearly all of his money and most of his time, to winning New Hampshire. He will not have the luxury of time to build a comparable network in the states that vote later.

“We’re going to be just fine,” he said Tuesday. “We’ll have the money and the organization, just like we always do. Sometimes we put it together with bailing wire and duct tape. But we always seem to get it done.”

Mr. Kasich attributed his success – assuming it materializes – to his relentlessly positive message.

“There is so much money in this thing, and it’s all negative,” he said, suggesting that almost $10 million has been spent against him in New Hampshire. “We’ve run a positive campaign, and we’ll see if we come out of here strong because, if we do, it’s a new chapter, maybe in American political life.”

Despite signs of a late surge, Mr. Kasich wasn’t looking to predict victory here in New Hampshire. “Let’s not get carried away,” he told a reporter who asked about the prospects of a win. But he clearly relished signs of a strong close to his New Hampshire campaign.

“Do I seem uptight? Do I seem nervous? I’m doing just great,” he said to big cheers from the dozen or so supporters who surrounded him.

“I’ve felt free enough to talk to people about my wins and my losses, my joys and my hurts,” he said. “I think maybe people just connect with that because everybody has it in their own life.”

The Ohio governor said he bumped into Mr. Trump earlier in the day as both candidates did pre-primary interviews, and teased the celebrity real-estate mogul, saying he beat him in the little town of Dixville Notch, which casts the first ballots of the primary.

“I said, ‘Donald, I crushed you.’” Mr. Kasich joked. “He said, ‘Yeah, you killed me.’”
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By Asura.Saevel 2016-02-09 19:14:12  
Siren.Mosin said: »
The real point is that fossil fuels are finite.

Actually they aren't. You can create hydrocarbon fuels using various methods depending on your feedstock. Cheap way is coal liquification where you use the carbon bonds in coal and a catalyst to create a liquid hydrocarbon fuel. The most expensive is raw synthesis where you take carbon and hydrogen molecules and expose them to a ***ton of heat and pressure, the results are the same but require quite a bit more input energy. The US Navy already designed and built a system that does precisely this. It sucks bicarbonate out of the Ocean water, breaks it down into Carbon and Hydrogen and then uses power off the ships nuclear reactor to synthesize both jet and diesel fuel. This way the aircraft carrier can provide infinite fuel for it's fighters while also refueling non-nuclear ships in the fleet. The Navy's goal is to get away from having to escort large fuel tankers to a fleets location for periodic refueling. The amortized cost of this process puts the fuel at about $7.50 to $8 USD per gallon, which while being more expensive then bulk purchases, is cheaper overall as it doesn't require the logistics of escorting a huge fuel tanker around. Seeing as many countries already have fuel that's artificially priced in that range, we already know it's economically viable.

In essence we can never run out of hydrocarbon fuel.

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Nuclear is dead in the water considering Americans are terrified of it and other sources are dependant on location.

Keep telling yourself that if it helps you sleep at night. Everything I'm hearing is the exact opposite. Economic necessity has been making Fission Nuclear more and more attractive, especially now that Gen III+ and Gen IV designs are out. Gen III+ is already certified for construction while Gen IV is going through the prototype phase. Fusion Nuclear has a ridiculous amount of work happening with many companies working on their own designs. The international community can no longer deliberately drag it's feet, private industry has taken it upon itself to build an economically viable fusion reactor. We will see mass fusion in our lifetimes.

In the end it doesn't matter how much progressives want to hamstring their respective countries economically, China has entered the market and is starting to lead the world in Nuclear. They really don't like having to use coal for base-load and since nuclear is the only viable alternative they are going full nuclear. They even purchased rights to the AP1000 Gen III+ reactor design and are now building the infrastructure and supply chain to mass produce components for it. They will eventually start selling them, and selling cheaply, and we can expect many smaller nations to jump at the opportunity. That will leave the USA and other progressive countries using ancient power technology in their attempts to "become one with mother Gaia".
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2016-02-09 20:43:26  
Mother Gaia, aid us, please!
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2016-02-10 09:28:51  
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Mother Gaia, aid us, please!
I think you mean "Praise Jesus!"
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2016-02-10 09:32:17  
Asura.Saevel said: »
Siren.Mosin said: »
The real point is that fossil fuels are finite.

Actually they aren't. You can create hydrocarbon fuels using various methods depending on your feedstock. Cheap way is coal liquification where you use the carbon bonds in coal and a catalyst to create a liquid hydrocarbon fuel. The most expensive is raw synthesis where you take carbon and hydrogen molecules and expose them to a ***ton of heat and pressure, the results are the same but require quite a bit more input energy. The US Navy already designed and built a system that does precisely this. It sucks bicarbonate out of the Ocean water, breaks it down into Carbon and Hydrogen and then uses power off the ships nuclear reactor to synthesize both jet and diesel fuel. This way the aircraft carrier can provide infinite fuel for it's fighters while also refueling non-nuclear ships in the fleet. The Navy's goal is to get away from having to escort large fuel tankers to a fleets location for periodic refueling. The amortized cost of this process puts the fuel at about $7.50 to $8 USD per gallon, which while being more expensive then bulk purchases, is cheaper overall as it doesn't require the logistics of escorting a huge fuel tanker around. Seeing as many countries already have fuel that's artificially priced in that range, we already know it's economically viable.

In essence we can never run out of hydrocarbon fuel.

Don't forget about abiotic oil too. There are oil wells out there that were once thought to have run dry that have unexplainably refilled themselves.

I posted the mini fussion reactor a while ago, but new designs put them at about the size of an airline engine.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-02-10 09:40:25  
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Mother Gaia, aid us, please!
I think you mean "Praise Jesus!"
Naw, Pleebo believes in the Lifestream.

He's a Jenova's Witness.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2016-02-10 09:41:48  
Jetackuu said: »
Who the *** fills up a 20 gallon tank twice a week every week?


I have driven more than 20 gallons in a week. It's really not that uncommon in my job. I drive a sipper that gets about 38 mpg. If I didn't have a sipper and drove a 25 mpg car I'd hit 20+ gallons almost every week.

What's my job title?

World polluter.
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