(Don't) Fear The Reaper: A Dark Knight Guide

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By veddertehtaco 2017-04-23 20:39:36  
Monty can hold its own pretty well, I've been using with since my return and it's fun as heck tossing out triple attack torcs and
ws-spam lol. Just gotta make sure your gear can cover the lack of acc on it but the stp/TA is great
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By Asura.Azagarth 2017-04-23 21:00:55  
if you like scythe too the jse one is 3m~ roughly to make and does great until apoc is AG.
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By veddertehtaco 2017-04-23 21:58:22  
^ this is probably best step I honestly forgot about it despite having used it myself lol
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By Cerberus.Kylos 2017-04-23 22:02:40  
Odin.Geriond said: »
This is what I use for my max potency/duration set. I only use this set when I have plenty of magic accuracy for the target, such as using absorbs on a nearby Zdei in Ru'aun before fighting a NM. When Dark Seal is active, I swap in Fallen's Burgeonet +1 instead of Ignominy Burgonet +3.

ItemSet 350695

This is what I use for my high magic accuracy set, when I want to land stuff on harder things, like Omen mini-bosses.

ItemSet 350696

I think ya better off with AF+3 instead of bringing in Relic head as it only increases duration by 10% unless you merited Dark Seal higher than 1?
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By veddertehtaco 2017-04-23 22:24:04  
I went 5/5 on DS for drain3 since it affects its duration (4:38 fully merited) and DE with its -15% hp is a terrible trade off in my opinion
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By Cerberus.Kylos 2017-04-23 22:25:45  
veddertehtaco said: »
I went 5/5 on DS for drain3 since it affects its duration (4:38 fully merited) and DE with its -15% hp is a terrible trade off in my opinion

So the wiki page is wrong when it says the head does not effect Drain II or III's HP boost duration?
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By veddertehtaco 2017-04-23 22:27:36  
Yea it was discussed further back in this thread, don't blame anyone for not knowing it as bgwiki needs that adjusted yet
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By veddertehtaco 2017-04-23 22:28:07  
Only seems to be drain3 btw not 2
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By Cerberus.Kylos 2017-04-23 22:31:48  
Yeah, perhaps the relic head page needs to state it will increase Drain 3's boost but not Drain 2's. Now I'm in two minds whether to increase DS and lower DE or not.
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By veddertehtaco 2017-04-23 22:36:17  
It adds a certain flare for using apoc and riding SE I'll add especially if you can get to cap hp, best I've done was on the SR dragon MBd with 7700hp and delve matamata 9999 which I admit is fun as hell but great sword I'm betting still wins out
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By Cerberus.Kylos 2017-04-23 22:37:52  
Do you need to keep the head equipped for the augmented Dark Seal to take effect when you cast? I thought you could macro it for DS and take it out after?
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By veddertehtaco 2017-04-23 22:47:20  
Needs to be in for the "landing" of the spell and I believe activation, but your not missing out on any FC really since it's reducing drain3 cast time by 50% fully merited too. Haven't gotten around to playing with gearswap so I don't think there's any way of getting pixie+1 in there for more potently sadly but that's why I try to MB it
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By Cerberus.Kylos 2017-04-23 23:10:42  
Tried Drain 3 out with 5 points in Dark Seal. It's good because by the time your HP boost wears, DS+NV are close to being ready again.

And you are right, relic head +1 needs to be on to increase Drain 3's HP boost past 4 minutes. Sadly Pixie +1 is only good for aspir or lower drains.
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By Asura.Azagarth 2017-04-23 23:11:23  
needs to be on midcast, and yes 5/5 imo is a must. full time 6k hp everywhere.
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By veddertehtaco 2017-04-23 23:24:07  
Oh cmon you know you really wanted pixie+1 for the awesomeness of infernal scythe!

Joking aside I still use it to try keeping my hp buff with drain2
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By veddertehtaco 2017-04-24 05:14:38  
got approx 5min4sec on abs str outside jeuno using chupa black head/legs/hands/feet and oddly 5min10sec using af+2 head swapped in over black head

edit: once again no lib, apoc
edit2: used kishar in both sets too
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By veddertehtaco 2017-04-24 05:49:12  
I been eyebelling (egads!) the various absorb gear i have and it seems like ankou (ambu jse) abs effect is less then 10%, what is the best way i could go abouts testing:

*black head/legs/hands/feet
*ankou (ambu cape)
*kishar ring
*chupa
*af+2/3 head
*relic +1 head

right now im just eyeballing +stopwatch but things seems off, maybe im just tired lol
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By Odin.Geriond 2017-04-24 09:37:18  
Ignominy Burgonet +2 gave more duration because Dark Magic Skill increases Absorb duration.
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By Sylph.Gobbo 2017-04-24 12:40:11  
veddertehtaco said: »
It adds a certain flare for using apoc and riding SE I'll add especially if you can get to cap hp, best I've done was on the SR dragon MBd with 7700hp and delve matamata 9999 which I admit is fun as hell but great sword I'm betting still wins out

ItemSet 348470

This is the set I use for MBing. I make sure AM is up and throw down a Darkness or Grav and MB it. I could easily hit capped HP against Omen bosses. MB Dmg is super important as its the biggest bonus you'll receive. Also Circle and Founder's Shirt boosts Drain damage as well against whatever mobs killer effect is working on.

Edit: I should mention the boots are Dark Matter augmented with MB Dmg+15% lol.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2017-04-24 13:36:30  
@Geriond
After reading about your idea for dt/hp hybrid set, I'm at the crossroads point of contemplating doing the same thing. I actually need Regal Hands for the huge HP boost to really give me a solid build, though.
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By Asura.Azagarth 2017-04-24 13:39:31  
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veddertehtaco said: »
It adds a certain flare for using apoc and riding SE I'll add especially if you can get to cap hp, best I've done was on the SR dragon MBd with 7700hp and delve matamata 9999 which I admit is fun as hell but great sword I'm betting still wins out

ItemSet 348470

This is the set I use for MBing. I make sure AM is up and throw down a Darkness or Grav and MB it. I could easily hit capped HP against Omen bosses. MB Dmg is super important as its the biggest bonus you'll receive. Also Circle and Founder's Shirt boosts Drain damage as well against whatever mobs killer effect is working on.

Edit: I should mention the boots are Dark Matter augmented with MB Dmg+15% lol.


by no means am I certain about this, but I was under the impression magic burst gear did not affect the dmg of drains or potency of aspir.
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By Siren.Kyte 2017-04-24 13:44:59  
It does, although I should say that Archon ring still outperforms other options during MBs.
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By Sylph.Gobbo 2017-04-24 13:51:45  
Siren.Kyte said: »
It does, although I should say that Archon ring still outperforms other options during MBs.

Actually looking in my LUA, I was using Archon Ring instead of Locus lol. I must've been thinking about something else when I made this on AH.
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By veddertehtaco 2017-04-24 14:10:22  
mb gear id imagine do from all reports its mab that doesnt, does mdmg though? id think it would but nothing concrete

Odin.Geriond said: »
Ignominy Burgonet +2 gave more duration because Dark Magic Skill increases Absorb duration.

when did dark magic skill start affecting duration o.O ive never heard this
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By Siren.Kyte 2017-04-24 14:13:14  
Magic damage does not.
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By Odin.Geriond 2017-04-24 14:14:10  
veddertehtaco said: »
mb gear id imagine do from all reports its mab that doesnt, does mdmg though? id think it would but nothing concrete

Odin.Geriond said: »
Ignominy Burgonet +2 gave more duration because Dark Magic Skill increases Absorb duration.

when did dark magic skill start affecting duration o.O ive never heard this
The September 2015 update.
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By veddertehtaco 2017-04-24 14:18:23  
another question is wherein does the mujin band outperform evan./archon? like where in the algorithim i mean so as to see which has greater "weight" and likewise with the earring, i have abyssal/hiru/dignitary but not that one and if its better then my ethereal i might go with it
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By Sylph.Gobbo 2017-04-24 14:21:04  
veddertehtaco said: »
mb gear id imagine do from all reports its mab that doesnt, does mdmg though? id think it would but nothing concrete

Odin.Geriond said: »
Ignominy Burgonet +2 gave more duration because Dark Magic Skill increases Absorb duration.

when did dark magic skill start affecting duration o.O ive never heard this

M.Dmg does not, Drains and Aspirs work like this:
It takes your dark magic skill and chooses a number within that range (the formula is on BG Wiki), Drain/Aspir Potency increases that range. After the number is chosen it goes through the normal magic multipliers that apply except it skips the MAB/MDB multiplier. So MBs, Gambit, etc. all apply to this.

And Skill started affecting duration the same time they removed the decay. It's especially nice if you're accuracy deficit, maxed out you could push it to like over 6 minutes with Dark Seal for a juicy 50-75 Accuracy boost.
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By veddertehtaco 2017-04-24 14:22:21  
Odin.Geriond said: »
veddertehtaco said: »
mb gear id imagine do from all reports its mab that doesnt, does mdmg though? id think it would but nothing concrete

Odin.Geriond said: »
Ignominy Burgonet +2 gave more duration because Dark Magic Skill increases Absorb duration.

when did dark magic skill start affecting duration o.O ive never heard this
The September 2015 update.
thx for that that explains the dif in numbers i was seeing between black head an af+2 :) do we know if theres tiers or sliding scale? and ty kyte as well thats unfortunate but no big loss

so can anyone else tell me im insane and was over tired or was ankou really giving less then the 10% thats stated on it?
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By Odin.Geriond 2017-04-24 14:25:55  
Every 5 Dark Magic Skill equates to one second before duration percentage increases are applied.
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