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 Siren.Kalilla
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By Siren.Kalilla 2012-10-30 14:15:43  
10-30-2012 01:53 PM
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I’m back again for one more quick note regarding corsair!

Currently on the Test Server, Wild Card does not reset the cool down timers for new special abilities; however, we will be addressing this in the future.

Since resetting the cool down timers for both current and new special abilities at the same time when rolling either a 5 or 6 would be a pretty big bonus, we are looking into making it so that cool down timers for both abilities will only be reset at the same time when rolling a 6.

Edit: Correct. Rolling a 5 would reset the current special ability cool down timer, and rolling a 6 would reset the cool down timers for both current and new special abilities. We are not taking anything away from Wild Card, we are only factoring in the new special abilities.
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By Fenrir.Leoheart 2012-10-30 14:17:52  
So which ability timer will be reset when rolling a 5?
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By Siren.Kalilla 2012-10-30 14:18:21  
I'm guessing it randomly picks which one to reset
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2012-10-30 14:18:23  
Probably only one of them chosen randomly, as usual.
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By Phoenix.Chomeymatt 2012-10-30 14:19:04  
need even more luck for cor. ***
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By Siren.Thoraeon 2012-10-30 14:20:54  
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By Quetzalcoatl.Wakmidget 2012-10-30 14:23:46  
Man, this next update seems to have more nerfs than new content, who's in charge! I demand to see the manager!!
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By Siren.Barber 2012-10-30 14:24:21  
might not be so bad. It might be whichever one has the shortest recast. Then you could just use them in the order you wanted them reset in case of a 5.
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By Carbuncle.Tronsy 2012-10-30 14:26:54  
I'm not sure if i am reading this as a nerf... If 5 can still reset one of the two abilitys, then wouldn't this be a buff if a 6 can reset both? Only considering the fact that as of now it can't be reset at all of course.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-10-30 14:29:38  
Dunno it's so much a nerf as much as a negative side effect of split 2hr timers that they didn't think through fully.
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By Phoenix.Amael 2012-10-30 14:35:18  
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[dev1139] Job Ability Adjustments: Perfect Defense / Tabula Rasa

The job abilities below have been adjusted in the following ways:

  • Summoner

    • Alexander's Perfect Defense
      • Effect duration will be reduced from ninety seconds to thirty seconds plus an additional second for every twenty points of one's summoning magic skill. For example, with a summoning magic skill value of 600, the ability's effect duration would be a maximum of sixty seconds (the base thirty seconds plus thirty more seconds for one's skill value).

  • Scholar

    • Embrava (castable only while Tabula Rasa is in effect)
      • Effect duration will be reduced from five minutes to ninety seconds.
      • Haste potency will increase by 1% for every twenty points of one's enhancing magic skill instead of for every fifteen points. Therefore, an enhancing magic skill value of 500 will increase the potency of haste by a maximum of 25%
      • Embrava will grant the effect of Refresh instead of Regain. The value of the effect, however, will remain the same.



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10-30-2012 01:53 PM
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Since resetting the cool down timers for both current and new special abilities at the same time when rolling either a 5 or 6 would be a pretty big bonus, we are looking into making it so that cool down timers for both abilities will only be reset at the same time when rolling a 6.
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By Bahamut.Bekisa 2012-10-30 14:40:10  
In before Wild Card 5 "lowers remaining cooldown timers by 30 seconds" with an extra 2 seconds per Loaded Deck merit. That sounds exactly like something they would do ...
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By Gimp 2012-10-30 14:40:49  
it's a nice convenience to be sure and faster than resheph/MMM but the other two options are still there.
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2012-10-30 14:45:38  
Wild Card better reset the other special ability though.
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By Leviathan.Kincard 2012-10-30 14:49:47  
5 ensures current SP reset, so this isn't a nerf at all, it's just people getting up in arms without seeking clarification first.

Though, given half the time they don't bother clarifying stuff can't say I blame people.
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By Bismarck.Helel 2012-10-30 14:53:54  
Who cares... People seriously still use wild card?
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By Artemicion 2012-10-30 14:58:27  
Bismarck.Helel said: »
Who cares... People seriously still use wild card?

Gotta reset them two hours for astral flow burns... oh wait.
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2012-10-30 15:02:29  
Bismarck.Helel said: »
Who cares... People seriously still use wild card?
Yes, very often.
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By Leviathan.Kincard 2012-10-30 15:02:32  
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5 does not ensure current SP reset

yes it does

well then its SE, and its the EN side so i guess they could just be giving us misinformation again, so i suppose your statement is well played
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-10-30 15:02:50  
Still don't see it particularly as a nerf since you've gained the ability to reset both SPs on a 6 to compensate, as well as the fact that even if 5 is a random chance to reset either one, for most jobs it doesn't even matter which 2hr you have up anymore.
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By Siren.Kalilla 2012-10-30 15:03:10  
nvm, just read the new post.

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Correct. Rolling a 5 would reset the current special ability cool down timer, and rolling a 6 would reset the cool down timers for both current and new special abilities. We are not taking anything away from Wild Card, we are only factoring in the new special abilities.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-10-30 15:04:08  
So it's a buff then, wonderful!
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2012-10-30 15:04:09  
So if I roll 5 I can't reset my other 1hour ability? WELL *** YOU.
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By Siren.Kalilla 2012-10-30 15:05:20  
Valefor.Prothescar said: »
So it's a buff then, wonderful!
Why wouldn't they just say that to begin with though, and mention it after the fact.
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By Leviathan.Kincard 2012-10-30 15:10:57  
I'm going to take a wait-and-see attitude for now, because aside from the fact that they change their minds about things to the degree of valley girls, there's also the fact that we constantly get shoddy translations and misinformation. Granted, a lot of the time the Japanese text is vague to the point that their blunders are understandable, but it's still pretty annoying.
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By Shiva.Kolossuss 2012-10-30 15:46:24  
People's reading comprehension levels just aren't what they used to be.

Thread title needs to be changed to remove (nerf).
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2012-10-30 15:53:29  
This seems pretty meaningless, its ridiculously easy to reset JA's and now that they are 1 hour, yeah. Not a big deal.
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By Siren.Kalilla 2012-10-30 16:15:44  
Shiva.Kolossuss said: »
People's reading comprehension levels just aren't what they used to be.

Thread title needs to be changed to remove (nerf).
There isn't a moderator online.

How can you blame me though.

you have 5 and 6 that resets the 2 hour. They add a new SP, and tell everyone that 5 will not reset both of them.

Now here is the issue (before clarification), what would 5 do? It could remain as is, making it possible to reset the original SP on both 5 or 6, or they could make 5 reset either the old or the new SP, basically flipping a coin.

If it is the later, that is a nerf. It would reduce the chance of resetting the original SP, by 2-3%, and in my opinion a reduced chance would be a nerf.

Now that they clarified it, supposedly 5 will reset the original SP.

I would of changed the title if I had the permission rights to do so, but I do not.
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By Ragnarok.Afania 2012-10-30 17:27:57  
Shiva.Kolossuss said: »
People's reading comprehension levels just aren't what they used to be.

Thread title needs to be changed to remove (nerf).

Just woke up and saw this tread title, it scared me ;<

Clicked it and found it's not nerf at all ;>
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