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 Phoenix.Hellcatt
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By Phoenix.Hellcatt 2012-03-12 03:26:45  
ok i have a favor to ask of everyone.
if u look at my profile item sets i cant figure out why my barrage are doing alot lower than most people i know i dont understand any ifo will help please and thank you.
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By Fenrir.Minjo 2012-03-12 03:40:34  
While Barrage is subject to the same accuracy cap as standard shots, you may simply be using too little of it relative to whatever you're fighting. Unrelated, but I'm fairly certain that Rancorous Mantle and Rancor Collar don't work for ranged attacks.
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By Carbuncle.Haseo 2012-03-12 03:41:26  
It might be because your set lacks the range accuracy to land all hits. You should adjust your range accuracy depending on what you're fighting.
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By Siren.Deric 2012-03-12 03:44:05  
Fenrir.Minjo said: »
but I'm fairly certain that Rancorous Mantle and Rancor Collar don't work for ranged attacks.

Eh? Never heard this, was under the impression that Rancorous mantle + light gorget is the way to go for Jinshu's and such.. D:
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By Phoenix.Hellcatt 2012-03-12 03:48:34  
Racc may b my problem ill mess with it. and its VW i use my RNG in mostly so higher lvl mobs. ty all again for advice.
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By Asura.Vrytreya 2012-03-12 04:25:45  
Ranged accuracy might be the real problem. Since a miss in shot = all miss on the following shots.

I found my Full-hit barrage is decent on Qilin (Can score up to 3.8k while good Jishnu's can hit up to 4.2k~4.3k)
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By Phoenix.Hellcatt 2012-03-12 04:35:10  
good to know tyvm
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By Phoenix.Hellcatt 2012-03-12 04:52:42  
ok now i really confused acording to this inputing my gear and food it says i have a 95% hit rate so im freaking lost ; ;



http://www.ffxicalculator.com/
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By Leviathan.Hohenheim 2012-03-12 04:55:39  
Phoenix.Hellcatt said: »
ok now i really confused acording to this inputing my gear and food it says i have a 95% hit rate so im freaking lost ; ;



http://www.ffxicalculator.com/

random number generator says hi

since doing my trials, ive wiffed like 10 barrages, thats with am1 racc boost up, gastraphetes barrage acc enhancement, and ep mobs ._.;
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By Phoenix.Hellcatt 2012-03-12 04:59:18  
ugh im so confused lol
i see all thease SS's of 10k+ out of abby on adl and VW mobs but my highest is 11176 and ever since then cant break 3.5k its anoying my crit do more lol
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By Leviathan.Hohenheim 2012-03-12 05:05:21  
x3 relic proc, thats why.
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By Asura.Vrytreya 2012-03-12 05:47:14  
Phoenix.Hellcatt said: »
ugh im so confused lol
i see all thease SS's of 10k+ out of abby on adl and VW mobs but my highest is 11176 and ever since then cant break 3.5k its anoying my crit do more lol
BRD & COR, please check it.
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By Carbuncle.Haseo 2012-03-12 05:54:38  
Could also be rapid shot and rng set proc.
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By Leviathan.Hohenheim 2012-03-12 06:04:22  
Carbuncle.Haseo said: »
Could also be rapid shot and rng set proc.

that can proc on barrage?
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By Cerberus.Cahlum 2012-03-12 06:21:21  
How people get 10-20 k barrages is Relic proc + af3+2 set proc for x5 dmg. If it procs on the first hit of barrage it will proc on all the hits of barrage.

If the first hit misses the rest will miss as well sadly, if the 2nd hit misses the rest will miss etc etc
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By Phoenix.Hellcatt 2012-03-12 06:39:50  
ty again guys for all the info if my barrage set onmy profile or any of the other sets look off plz let me know what i can do to fix em im off to bed lol 5am again tyvm
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By Lakshmi.Santoro 2012-03-12 06:52:45  
Also a factor is that you are using relic bow and the higher numbers come from the gun, could be as simple as that.
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By Leviathan.Prototyp 2012-03-12 10:16:33  
From your set, I'd take out Oneiros Pearl and switch for Vulcan's pearl, even a Flame Pearl would be more benefiting, STR has a lovely effect on RATK as you most probably already know.

Not sure if Minjo is correct on Critrate+ gear not effecting Ranged, but either way, Rancorous+Nefarious combo isn't very good. I'd go with Rancor collar + Terebellum Mantle, or if racc is gonna be an issue, Libeccio mantle.

Another thing to point out is the belt, -7dex, obviously not very good for critrate, the very build style you seem to be trying to maximize.

other than that, seems good

Oyea switch yoichi for anni ^^

/trollface off
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By Quetzalcoatl.Seveth 2012-03-12 10:42:21  
That -7 DEX on Beir Belt +1 is not helping your crit rate either. I'd go w/ Buccaneer's Belt, Bobcat Belt, or Prosilo Belt if you can afford it.

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By Bismarck.Gaspee 2012-03-12 11:10:16  
Leviathan.Prototyp said: »
From your set, I'd take out Oneiros Pearl and switch for Vulcan's pearl, even a Flame Pearl would be more benefiting, STR has a lovely effect on RATK as you most probably already know.

I'd go with Rancor collar + Terebellum Mantle, or if racc is gonna be an issue, Libeccio mantle.

Another thing to point out is the belt, -7dex, obviously not very good for critrate, the very build style you seem to be trying to maximize.

other than that, seems good

Oyea switch yoichi for anni ^^

/trollface off

This is what I would do.

And...

Fierce gun owners are fierce. :D
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By Ragnarok.Matix 2012-03-12 12:55:58  
The way people are doing these 10-20k barrages is landing as many arrows as possible/crit'ing;(dead aim trait)/and finally the 3x proc. BRD/COR will really help alot to boost damage and get into that 10k+ range on VW, tho on ADL, personally I don't get anything but /war+food+embrava and still break 10k with 3x under the circumstances Getting a 5x proc would stand out very easily, craziest part of it all is how some of those barrage numbers are still far from the maximum one could achieve.
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By Asura.Vrytreya 2012-03-12 13:19:41  
7+1+1 = 9 arrows
x1.25 (ranged crit)
x1.45 (dead aim)
x3(relic proc)
x2(empy rapid shot augment)

It's like firing 16 arrows at once, 49 if it's relic proc, and 98 arrows if the augment can work on Barrage. Even a "tame" 408 dmg per hit (non-crit) can be amplified to 20k, without counting the rapid shot augment.
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By Asura.Hotsoups 2012-03-14 11:43:06  
Damn I love Ranger.
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By Cerberus.Maeldiar 2012-07-02 00:55:57  


Can anyone improve on this set? Annihilator in place of yoich
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By Narb 2012-07-02 17:58:19  
Wurrukatte Boots?
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By Quetzalcoatl.Kenrusai 2012-07-02 20:36:58  
In Voidwatch, under champions your set is ideal, though wanion belt instead of scout's, and pyrosoul instead of rajas.

In recent endgame content, and probably future content I would change your set to:

-Sylvan Gapette +2
-Terebellum Mantle (If mob is particularly evasive, Libeccio mantle)
-Rancor Collar
-Pyrosoul Ring
-Wanion Belt
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By Quetzalcoatl.Waffless 2013-01-26 21:48:27  
Since I don't have wanion, is prosilio the next best thing?
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By Siren.Thoraeon 2013-01-26 22:26:01  
Quetzalcoatl.Waffless said: »
Since I don't have wanion, is prosilio the next best thing?
Prosilio is probably better due to the recent discovery that Agi affects ranged crits, not Dex as previously thought.

http://wiki.bluegartr.com/bg/Critical_hit_rate
http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=261&mid=135208186510825877&p=1#1
http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/113755-Ranged-Critical-Hit-Rate-Testing?p=5507978&viewfull=1#post5507978
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By Smurfite 2013-01-26 22:36:56  
Quetzalcoatl.Waffless said: »
Since I don't have wanion, is prosilio the next best thing?

Still think scouts or bucc's best option for belt, nothing makes you wanna throw relics on the floor more than wiffing barrage...
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By Bismarck.Helel 2013-01-26 23:26:23  
Siren.Thoraeon said: »
Quetzalcoatl.Waffless said: »
Since I don't have wanion, is prosilio the next best thing?
Prosilio is probably better due to the recent discovery that Agi affects ranged crits, not Dex as previously thought.

http://wiki.bluegartr.com/bg/Critical_hit_rate
http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=261&mid=135208186510825877&p=1#1
http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/113755-Ranged-Critical-Hit-Rate-Testing?p=5507978&viewfull=1#post5507978

Thank you for that. I never read that post. Makes me feel better about my AGI merits.

P.S. and thank you Byrth
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