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 Siren.Kuz
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By Siren.Kuz 2011-09-19 13:03:49  
Omphalos Bullet Rare Exclusive
Marksmanship
DMG:89 Delay:240
Magic Accuracy+20
“Magic Atk. Bonus”+20
Lv95 COR

My Quickdraw says THANK YOU for this :D


P.S. Anyone subbing RNG and thinking “oooooh Unlimited Shot”
Please stop. Think about how often you could do that with how fast TP gain is…
And PLEASE for the sake of the children THINK about /RDM or /BLM
Magic Attack Bonus II trait says “Hello”
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By kaida 2011-09-19 13:06:48  
and Unlimited Shot is level 51 rng
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 Siren.Kuz
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By Siren.Kuz 2011-09-19 13:07:55  
Man did I Brain fart on that one. LOL

EDIT: At work and typing fast in between job details. didn't even THINK about what level it was.
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2011-09-19 13:10:02  
I want this single bullet so much.
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2011-09-19 13:23:00  
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And PLEASE for the sake of the children THINK about /RDM or /BLM
Magic Attack Bonus II trait says “Hello”

/rdm and /blm are very good in particular instances.

But /sam is my primary subjob of choice. Meditate, Seigan/Third Eye, Store TP and Sekkanoki would also like to throw out a, "What's up?"

That said, yes. Quick Draw is gonna be loving this.
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By Carbuncle.Sephiel 2011-09-20 17:39:53  
I hope SE "locked" it somehow so it could not be fired :E
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2011-09-21 06:21:12  
Carbuncle.Sephiel said: »
I hope SE "locked" it somehow so it could not be fired :E

Hell no. They've never done that. There was a time even the melee/mage ammo items (like bomb core) were throwable. It made sense that they changed those. But actual bullets? I'm just happy QD doesn't expend bullets, so this is at least good for that. Also, if they could do that, you would have unlimited shot all the time with that bullet.

Let than sink in.

This isn't the first ammo intended to be used in this or similar fashion. Ranger has had multiple unlimited shot WS ammos in the past.

See:
http://www.ffxiah.com/item/18255/heavy-shell

At best, hopefully it comes in a an enchanged device the way that they adjusted Patriach Protector's Arrow > Combat Caster's Arrow/quiver etc.
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By Ragnarok.Raizell 2011-09-21 06:24:56  
SCH sub now has weather spells, fire weather one is SCH47, it opens a bunch of new possiblities for WF/QD sets that uses specific day/weather, but i'll stick to /SAM because i'm too lazy to get sea obis
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By Shiva.Symbiote 2011-09-23 20:57:11  
Bismarck.Ramyrez said: »
Carbuncle.Sephiel said: »
I hope SE "locked" it somehow so it could not be fired :E

Hell no. They've never done that. There was a time even the melee/mage ammo items (like bomb core) were throwable. It made sense that they changed those. But actual bullets? I'm just happy QD doesn't expend bullets, so this is at least good for that. Also, if they could do that, you would have unlimited shot all the time with that bullet.

Let than sink in.

This isn't the first ammo intended to be used in this or similar fashion. Ranger has had multiple unlimited shot WS ammos in the past.

See:
http://www.ffxiah.com/item/18255/heavy-shell

At best, hopefully it comes in a an enchanged device the way that they adjusted Patriach Protector's Arrow > Combat Caster's Arrow/quiver etc.
If they did "lock" it, they would just have to make it so the /ra command is unavailable while it is equipped. Not hard at all to do. There is a bullet that is unable to be fired, but when you equip it, your ranged weapon is unequipped.
Fullmetal Bullet

And on the note of the Omphalos Bullet: Has it been confirmed of where it drops from?
 
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2011-09-24 06:47:16  
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If they did "lock" it, they would just have to make it so the /ra command is unavailable while it is equipped. Not hard at all to do. There is a bullet that is unable to be fired, but when you equip it, your ranged weapon is unequipped.

That's not actually a bullet. It's an ammo item a la Bomb Core that's simply named/sprited as a bullet.
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By Phoenix.Emiisuzu 2011-09-24 08:35:13  
Bismarck.Ramyrez said: »
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If they did "lock" it, they would just have to make it so the /ra command is unavailable while it is equipped. Not hard at all to do. There is a bullet that is unable to be fired, but when you equip it, your ranged weapon is unequipped.
That's not actually a bullet. It's an ammo item a la Bomb Core that's simply named/sprited as a bullet.

While that if very true the consept is still the same. Make it where the /ra command does not work just like it does with the throwing items and it would make since. Just wait till your macro glitches and you fire it. I for see a topic on the offical forums beggin that it be changed to a none firing bullet.
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By Bahamut.Aeronis 2011-09-24 10:01:35  
Bismarck.Ramyrez said: »
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If they did "lock" it, they would just have to make it so the /ra command is unavailable while it is equipped. Not hard at all to do. There is a bullet that is unable to be fired, but when you equip it, your ranged weapon is unequipped.

That's not actually a bullet. It's an ammo item a la Bomb Core that's simply named/sprited as a bullet.
It is a bullet.

Oberon's Bullet
[Ammo] All Races
DPS: 1925 DMG:77 Delay:240 Ranged Accuracy+6
LV 80 RNG COR

Omphalos Bullet Rare Ex
[Ammo] All Races
DPS: 2225 DMG:89 Delay:240 Magic Accuracy+20 "Magic Atk. Bonus"+20
LV 95 COR

Classified as ammo, with the name "Bullet" as all others are.


This is another bullet that is Rare/Ex as well:

Hightail Bullet Rare Ex
[Ammo] All Races
DPS: 2225 DMG:89 Delay:240 Ranged Attack+10
LV 75 RNG
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2011-09-24 20:35:49  
Bahamut.Aeronis said: »
Bismarck.Ramyrez said: »
Quote:
If they did "lock" it, they would just have to make it so the /ra command is unavailable while it is equipped. Not hard at all to do. There is a bullet that is unable to be fired, but when you equip it, your ranged weapon is unequipped.

That's not actually a bullet. It's an ammo item a la Bomb Core that's simply named/sprited as a bullet.
It is a bullet.

Oberon's Bullet
[Ammo] All Races
DPS: 1925 DMG:77 Delay:240 Ranged Accuracy+6
LV 80 RNG COR

Omphalos Bullet Rare Ex
[Ammo] All Races
DPS: 2225 DMG:89 Delay:240 Magic Accuracy+20 "Magic Atk. Bonus"+20
LV 95 COR

Classified as ammo, with the name "Bullet" as all others are.


This is another bullet that is Rare/Ex as well:

Hightail Bullet Rare Ex
[Ammo] All Races
DPS: 2225 DMG:89 Delay:240 Ranged Attack+10
LV 75 RNG

I was talking about the ammo item to which he was referring (http://www.ffxiah.com/item/19214/fullmetal-bullet). The Fullmetal Bullet is NOT a firable ammo bullet. It's a non-projectile ammo like a bomb core or fire bomblet. I'm not suggesting r/ex ammo isn't in the game, in fact I already referenced an example.

And no, the code is not the same at all, precisely for the reason that it unequips a gun when you equip the ammo. When you equip the fullmetal bullet, it unequips any gun you have on because it is not an actual bullet to be fired. It's like try to fire a bomb core with your Armageddon.

To do what you're proposing would either have to fundamentally change the code or the bullet itself would have to be coded to give you a full-time unlimited shot effect, which would be completely and totally broken.
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By Cerberus.Vaness 2011-09-24 20:54:24  
Siren.Kuz said: »
Omphalos Bullet Rare Exclusive
Marksmanship
DMG:89 Delay:240
Magic Accuracy+20
“Magic Atk. Bonus”+20
Lv95 COR

My Quickdraw says THANK YOU for this :D


P.S. Anyone subbing RNG and thinking “oooooh Unlimited Shot”
Please stop. Think about how often you could do that with how fast TP gain is…
And PLEASE for the sake of the children THINK about /RDM or /BLM
Magic Attack Bonus II trait says “Hello”
I'm not a corsair but if I was one, I woulda wet mah pants!
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By Ragnarok.Chaska 2011-11-14 11:36:09  
i shot it D:
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2011-11-14 11:49:11  
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i shot it D:

He did. I was there.
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2011-11-14 11:52:27  
Oh snap.
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By Dadaluma 2012-01-02 09:28:18  
call gm? lol
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By Bismarck.Luces 2012-01-02 10:17:50  
in reference to the mage ammo use to able to be thrown, it also use to have an aspire effect on the tathalums so you could farm stacks of it, cap throwing and use them to get mp back, I was actually sad when they removed this as I was like 2/3 of the way to capped throwing on rdm at the time.
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By Odin.Valdor 2012-01-04 18:02:53  
Someone needs to post on the official forums and get the [Dev] to make this item non-shootable.
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By Bismarck.Rinomaru 2012-01-04 18:06:41  
Odin.Valdor said: »
Someone needs to post on the official forums and get the [Dev] to make this item non-shootable.

Then dont use it.
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By Bahamut.Aeronis 2012-01-04 18:14:01  
Odin.Valdor said: »
Someone needs to post on the official forums and get the [Dev] to make this item non-shootable.
Code
<!-- Rule: Protect Smart Grenade -->
		<if CommandPrefix="/range"> 
			<if EquipAmmo="Omphalos Bullet">
				<action type="AddtoChat">Ranged Attack Canceled - Omphalos Bullet Equipped</action>
				<action type="CancelSpell" />
				<action type="Return" />
			</if>
		</if>


Spellcast is your friend.
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By Ragnarok.Afania 2012-01-05 04:23:21  
Bahamut.Aeronis said: »
Odin.Valdor said: »
Someone needs to post on the official forums and get the [Dev] to make this item non-shootable.
Code
<!-- Rule: Protect Smart Grenade -->
		<if CommandPrefix="/range"> 
			<if EquipAmmo="Omphalos Bullet">
				<action type="AddtoChat">Ranged Attack Canceled - Omphalos Bullet Equipped</action>
				<action type="CancelSpell" />
				<action type="Return" />
			</if>
		</if>


Spellcast is your friend.


Not helpful for console/none 3rd pt tool users ;(
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By Odin.Valdor 2012-01-28 21:19:08  
Spellcast does not guarantee you still won't shoot the bullet because of a glitch or lag.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-01-28 21:35:14  
It prevents shooting the bullet because of lag. As for glitches... there's no glitch that I'm aware of that causes you to shoot the incorrect ammunition.
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By Lakshmi.Eyrhika 2012-01-28 22:10:48  
Odin.Valdor said: »
Spellcast does not guarantee you still won't shoot the bullet because of a glitch or lag.

Yeah but you can put a ton of redundancies in there to make it really hard to shoot it. Aftercast change to a bullet, precast of a shot change to a bullet, cancel if bullet is equiped.. ect.
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By Leviathan.Blackwhirlwind 2012-01-28 22:56:23  
Man ive miss fired my oberon bullet so many times i ended up making a macro to switch to bronze bullet before i do wildfire /equip ammmo bronze bullet, /wait2, /ws wildfire, no more worries, ill do the same when i get Omphalos bullet, "IF" lol.
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2012-01-28 23:00:12  
I've got my macros set up as such that the only way I can fire my Om. Bullet is if I let myself run out of Orichalcum bullets without cracking a new stack.


Hopefully I can keep it longer than two weeks, which is about as long as my old PPA lasted back in the day on ranger. XD
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By Bismarck.Gaspee 2012-01-28 23:06:23  
Bismarck.Ramyrez said: »
I've got my macros set up as such that the only way I can fire my Om. Bullet is if I let myself run out of Orichalcum bullets without cracking a new stack.


Hopefully I can keep it longer than two weeks, which is about as long as my old PPA lasted back in the day on ranger. XD
I was able to keep my first one for exactly that long xD
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