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 Bahamut.Bojack
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By Bahamut.Bojack 2011-07-28 11:10:51  
What's the %s of 1, 2, 3, and 4 attacks on the OA2-4 Enchu +2?
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By Cerberus.Wolfshadow 2011-07-28 11:15:16  
I just woke up around an hour ago from like 4 hours of sleep, so feel free not to trust my faulty recollections, but if it's like Khanda +2 (which I'd imagine it is), I vaguely remember it being 40%/30%/20%/10% or around that.
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By Carbuncle.Tweeek 2011-07-29 16:45:35  
there are better choices over the enchu for off hand though in case you were unaware
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By Pandemonium.Ironguy 2011-07-29 16:46:53  
Bahamut.Bojack said:
What's the %s of 1, 2, 3, and 4 attacks on the OA2-4 Enchu +2?

kamome
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By Carbuncle.Axle 2011-07-29 16:50:38  
Bahamut.Bojack said:
What's the %s of 1, 2, 3, and 4 attacks on the OA2-4 Enchu +2?

i have only enchu +1, 2-3 times. It isn't worth it. Merc Kris would pwn it in tp gain.

Low dmg means really low dmg crits. Normal katana would be 180-200 crit, enchu would be 70-80.

I use apoc atma pretty much fulltime making enchu useless. I have tried to make it work, but it just feeds tp and hits for nothing.
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By Pandemonium.Ironguy 2011-07-29 16:52:03  
Carbuncle.Axle said:
i have only enchu +1, 2-3 times. It isn't worth it. Merc Kris would pwn it in tp gain.

>mercurial kris on ninja
>my face

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By Odin.Venomous 2011-07-29 16:54:34  
Get a kamome if you don't have one. They are easy as hell to get. I'm sure you can get one easily from a sobek pick up party.
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By Carbuncle.Axle 2011-07-29 16:56:26  
Pandemonium.Ironguy said:
Carbuncle.Axle said:
i have only enchu +1, 2-3 times. It isn't worth it. Merc Kris would pwn it in tp gain.

>mercurial kris on ninja
>my face


Enchu is about tp gain. no? so if you want crappy dmg and tp, merc kris.
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By Asura.Kaisuko 2011-07-29 16:57:27  
I personally like Kamome, but isn't the point of multiple hits for TP gain so you WS more for damage, not for melee damage?

I'm not a math person, so I'm not saying I'm right or even close, but I always see the point argued that it hits weak and feeds too much TP to the mob. If you have a WHM though, who cares how much TP the mob has, unless it uses some deadly moves, then just use a different weapon for that fight. And as stated above, isn't the point to ws more for damage over melee damage?
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By Pandemonium.Ironguy 2011-07-29 16:58:40  
Carbuncle.Axle said:
Enchu is about tp gain. no? so if you want crappy dmg and tp, merc kris.

ninja =/= strictly about weapon skills

ninja = dps

not necessarily implying you're justifying mercurial kris here by any means, but still, just easier to type out a certain six-letter-named-weapon and call it a day
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By Cerberus.Wolfshadow 2011-07-29 17:01:01  
Asura.Kaisuko said:
I personally like Kamome, but isn't the point of multiple hits for TP gain so you WS more for damage, not for melee damage?

I'm not a math person, so I'm not saying I'm right or even close, but I always see the point argued that it hits weak and feeds too much TP to the mob. If you have a WHM though, who cares how much TP the mob has, unless it uses some deadly moves, then just use a different weapon for that fight. And as stated above, isn't the point to ws more for damage over melee damage?
You have to understand that the proc rate on Enchu is very meh for the time put in, and it doesn't help WS damage at all, only improving WS frequency, and offers no actual increase to white damage due to the low base damage and lack of enhancing stats. This combined with the mob's enhances ws frequency makes the usage of enchu very ill-advised.

Kamome being offhanded however enhances both white damage, ws damage, and helps with capping acc on whatever needs accuracy still, and attack, which on a one handed weapon is very important.
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By Carbuncle.Tweeek 2011-07-29 17:07:09  
If only there were discussions about off-hand katana that some how explained exactly which were best and why.
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By Bahamut.Bojack 2011-07-29 17:24:13  
Who cares? lol. I have a Kamome, I know it's better, and I will be using it the majority of the time. Just asked a simple question. Will probably make an Enchu just to play around with sometimes. Got nothin better to do.
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By Pandemonium.Ironguy 2011-07-29 17:25:02  
Bahamut.Bojack said:
I have a Kamome and would be using most of the time.

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By Ramuh.Krizz 2011-07-29 17:27:25  
/sigh
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By Bahamut.Bojack 2011-07-29 17:29:04  
Pandemonium.Ironguy said:
Bahamut.Bojack said:
I have a Kamome and would be using most of the time.


Most of the time = The times that count.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-07-29 18:24:47  
Magian OA4 averages out to ~1.9 hits/round. I don't remember the exact distribution.
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By Cerberus.Wolfshadow 2011-07-29 21:42:42  
Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
Magian OA4 averages out to ~1.9 hits/round. I don't remember the exact distribution.
well my original thought of 40%/30%/20%/10% is an average of 2hits/round, so can probably assume it's just a little bit worse than that, like around 50%/25%/15%/10% or something (which would be 1.85hits/round). Pretty terrible chance either way :|
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By Ravenlokk 2011-07-29 21:50:52  
IF you want a weapon just to mess around with then do it by all means. If its any consolation i have the OA2-4 Sword and Axe, and ive never used either of them lol. I did them because i was bored and they take less than 2 days each :)
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