Monk TP Setup?

Just have a few questions on TP setup. Was hoping someone with math skills would be able to give me a definite answer.^^



This first set seems to be the most accepted and one, and the one I first had planned on using.




This second one I was just curious if Usu feet would win in TP? I know haste is already capped without feet, but wasn't sure if the attack+ and store tp+ would outweigh stats/set bonus/increased damage to kicks on af3+2.




This third one was just an idea I had, and am curious about it. You still cap haste, and you gain Double Attack and Triple Attack from pants which would work well with Demonry Ring.

Also:
Should Demonry Ring replace Rajas on any other setup?
Would Juogi be better than af3+2 body on any of these setups? From what i gathered, the body reduces 280 delay -> 275 delay, which is only ~1.75% reduction(if I did that math right). I know double attack has diminishing returns but still wasn't sure. Would the double attack/crit rate be better for when Impetus is down? or would it not be worth losing the attack/str/martial arts?

Sorry about all the questions but I really hope I can get some solid answers because this has been bugging me. :D

Personally I wouldn't go with Demonry ring over Rajas. Store TP/STR/DEX is just awesome. Atk+7 isn't worth that. The extra Trick Attack dmg on only 2% of your attacks wouldn't be worth it. In abyssea with AoA who knows. Your third setup looks like fun! And no, I would not use Juogi.

I'm not of much help, just wanted to say the third set looks like fun. The returns from DA/TA/QA (supposedly) is linear where as Haste is not linear returns (idk what type of return it is, but they show it as some form of power greater than 1 - quadratic, cubic, etc). Juogi doesn't even win out on ws according to my mnk friend. Only Juogi +1 with Imp. down

GL!

Edit: Also, you don't need to ignore the set effect on 5/5 afv3. It's low but you do get double kicks here and there! And afv3 feet will increase that dmg.

Usu feet will never beat af3+2 feet with capped haste, 45dmg kicks really ups your damage over a few acc/att. And af3+2 pants has kick att+7 which is pretty much double att+7 in a way. Top one i know is a "cookie cutter" monk. But it is like that for a reason. Its optimal. And the only body that would be semi acceptable over af3 would be loki's, and only when impetus is down. Looks good though.

Without doing math, if I had your gear...
Would use bottom set, keep the Demonry and use Apoc/A&O/RR for ~30% triple attack (What I use anyway minus the ring/legs). Would be epic.
Using those atmas, I would say Demonry becomes a full-time piece in any set.

How much does it increase Triple Attack damage by? The ring, that is.

I lean towards the first set. Tantra feet will trump Usu feet, so the second set is worse. I honestly don't know how much the Demonry ring increases TA damage by, but something tells me giving up the +45 DMG to kicks, the Kick attacks+5, and the set bonus chance isn't worth it.

Tantra earring would do more than the atk earring in Abyssea.

If all you fight is exp mobs, lol.

Also, why give up increase TA dmg when you can get DA/TA+3% on Epona's? I wouldn't give that thing up. Increased TA dmg would have to be nice to outdo that for me.

I was looking thru my mog safe last night and i noticed i had a pair of Retaliators sitting around was thinking these might be relevant now a days with all the counterstance tanking. What do u think?

Absolutely not