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By Darkrelm 2011-05-15 00:43:45  
Ello Der.

Just wondering if any one has any Info on the new Dynamis Proc System and how the Force Spawn System Works? any Info would be great.

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By Cerberus.Eugene 2011-05-15 00:46:00  
It's not formatted and all posted neatly but most of the info you need can be found in here.
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By Darkrelm 2011-05-15 00:48:22  
Thanx Eugene. I'll Search the Forum's a bit.
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By Bismarck.Eburo 2011-05-15 01:08:02  
Someone should compile all the information into one thread or into the FFXIclopedia...

Since reading 3 pages of that thread got me one very vague, small piece of information pertaining to one type of Dynamis enemy.
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By Ramuh.Ivebian 2011-05-15 06:24:14  
I've compiled all the information regarding successful process's from the thread on BG forums and the thread here on XIAH into this for my LS's use. I however do not list various conditions such as day time or specific mob jobs nor do I include the type/color of process(mainly due to too much speculation) this is not meant for testing purposes, this is only a list of Reported Trigger's found thus far (some have triggered multiple colors while red seems to be the most common stagger, so I believe there is some other factor that determines color but idk yet its too early to tell):

If the mob is: RNG THF MNK BST NIN — Weakness is a JA
If the mob is: PLD WAR SAM DRG DRK — Weakness is a WS
If the mob is: WHM BLM SMN BRD RDM — Weakness is Magic

Job Ability Triggers

Warrior: Provoke
Dancer: Box Step, Stutter Step, Quickstep, Animated Flourish, Desperate flourish, Violent flourish
Dragoon: Spirit Jump, Soul Jump, Angon
Thief: Steal, Mug
Samurai: Hamanoha, Blade Bash
Scholar: Libra,
Monk: Chi Blast ,
Corsair: Earth Shot, Light Shot, Ice Shot,
Ranger: Bounty Shot
Beastmaster: Dipperyuly: Spiral Spin
Summoner: Garuda: Predator Claws

Weapon Skill Triggers

Dagger: Rudra's Storm, Evisceration, Shark Bite, Mordant Rime, Mandalic Stab, Mercy Stroke, Cyclone, Energy Drain, Aeolian Edge, Dancing Edge
Katana: Blade: Jin, Blade: Rin, Blade: Hi, Blade: Chi, Blade: Ei, Blade: Ku
Hand-to-Hand: Combo, Victory Smite, Ascetic's Fury, Tornado Kick, Asuran Fists
Sword: Sanguine Blade, Red Lotus Blade, Chante du Cygne
Polearm: Skewer, Drakesbane, Wheeling Thrust, Camlann's Torment
Great Sword: Scourge, Ground Strike, Catastrophe
Scythe: Shadow of Death
Great Axe: Ukko's Fury, Raging Rush
Axe: Spinning Axe
Marksmanship: Numbing Shot
Great Katana: Tachi: Fudo, Tachi: Gekko

Magic Triggers

Black Magic: Fire, Thunder, Blizzard, Fire II, Stone III, Water III, Fire IV, Blizzard IV, Thunder IV, Aero IV, Blizzard V, Stone V, Stoneja, Frost, Bio, Bio II, Sleep, Sleep II, Sleepga, Sleepga II, Stun, Dispel, Bind, Blind, Blind II, Drain
White Magic: Banish, Banish II, Banish III, Holy, Flash, Dia II, Silence, Slow, Slow II, Paralyze, Paralyze II,
Blue Magic: Fire Spit, Head butt, Lamb Chop, Quad. Continuum
Ninjitsu: Hyoton: Ni, Raiton: Ni, Doton:Ni, Hojo: Ni, Katon: Ni
Songs: Magic Finale, Horde Lullaby, ??? Elegy, Foe lullaby, Foe lullaby II
Avatar Blood Pacts: Carbuncle: Holy Mist

these are all the staggers found up to page 21 on BG forums: Neo-Dynamis thread

and up to page 17 here: FFXIAH Dynamis Nothing Drops
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By Lakshmi.Dkbutterflavah 2011-05-15 07:33:10  
One of the theories that seems most plausible at the moment seems to be that the triggering does not happen unless some or all of the TE statutes are killed.

Whether it is true or not is to be seen, but it seems like a good info on TOP of those information that you have listed.
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By Ragnarok.Corres 2011-05-15 08:20:34  
Lakshmi.Dkbutterflavah said:
One of the theories that seems most plausible at the moment seems to be that the triggering does not happen unless some or all of the TE statutes are killed.

Whether it is true or not is to be seen, but it seems like a good info on TOP of those information that you have listed.
tried with 2 TE's only didn't Proc anything. Definetly going for all TE's and trying again.
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By Bahamut.Alukat 2011-05-15 08:43:58  
i was rdm/blm (didn't got any TE's), spammed (40-50 casts at all), sleep, sleep II, sleepga, slow II, paralyze II, blizzard III + IV, stone IV, thunder III, dispel, silence, aspir, drain on a rdm and a blm mob. no proc.
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By Cerberus.Thongypoo 2011-05-15 12:27:15  
Ramuh.Ivebian said:
I've compiled all the information regarding successful process's from the thread on BG forums and the thread here on XIAH into this for my LS's use. I however do not list various conditions such as day time or specific mob jobs nor do I include the type/color of process(mainly due to too much speculation) this is not meant for testing purposes, this is only a list of Reported Trigger's found thus far (some have triggered multiple colors while red seems to be the most common stagger, so I believe there is some other factor that determines color but idk yet its too early to tell):

If the mob is: RNG THF MNK BST NIN — Weakness is a JA
If the mob is: PLD WAR SAM DRG DRK — Weakness is a WS
If the mob is: WHM BLM SMN BRD RDM — Weakness is Magic

Job Ability Triggers

Warrior: Provoke
Dancer: Box Step, Stutter Step, Quickstep, Animated Flourish, Desperate flourish, Violent flourish
Dragoon: Spirit Jump, Soul Jump, Angon
Thief: Steal, Mug
Samurai: Hamanoha, Blade Bash
Scholar: Libra,
Monk: Chi Blast ,
Corsair: Earth Shot, Light Shot, Ice Shot,
Ranger: Bounty Shot
Beastmaster: Dipperyuly: Spiral Spin
Summoner: Garuda: Predator Claws

Weapon Skill Triggers

Dagger: Rudra's Storm, Evisceration, Shark Bite, Mordant Rime, Mandalic Stab, Mercy Stroke, Cyclone, Energy Drain, Aeolian Edge, Dancing Edge
Katana: Blade: Jin, Blade: Rin, Blade: Hi, Blade: Chi, Blade: Ei, Blade: Ku
Hand-to-Hand: Combo, Victory Smite, Ascetic's Fury, Tornado Kick, Asuran Fists
Sword: Sanguine Blade, Red Lotus Blade, Chante du Cygne
Polearm: Skewer, Drakesbane, Wheeling Thrust, Camlann's Torment
Great Sword: Scourge, Ground Strike, Catastrophe
Scythe: Shadow of Death
Great Axe: Ukko's Fury, Raging Rush
Axe: Spinning Axe
Marksmanship: Numbing Shot
Great Katana: Tachi: Fudo, Tachi: Gekko

Magic Triggers

Black Magic: Fire, Thunder, Blizzard, Fire II, Stone III, Water III, Fire IV, Blizzard IV, Thunder IV, Aero IV, Blizzard V, Stone V, Stoneja, Frost, Bio, Bio II, Sleep, Sleep II, Sleepga, Sleepga II, Stun, Dispel, Bind, Blind, Blind II, Drain
White Magic: Banish, Banish II, Banish III, Holy, Flash, Dia II, Silence, Slow, Slow II, Paralyze, Paralyze II,
Blue Magic: Fire Spit, Head butt, Lamb Chop, Quad. Continuum
Ninjitsu: Hyoton: Ni, Raiton: Ni, Doton:Ni, Hojo: Ni, Katon: Ni
Songs: Magic Finale, Horde Lullaby, ??? Elegy, Foe lullaby, Foe lullaby II
Avatar Blood Pacts: Carbuncle: Holy Mist

these are all the staggers found up to page 21 on BG forums: Neo-Dynamis thread

and up to page 17 here: FFXIAH Dynamis Nothing Drops

Shadowstitch also works for weapon skill proc.
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By Asura.Ina 2011-05-15 12:37:38  
It seems to be 3 TEs = blue proc. 4 TEs = yellow, all 5 = red... I was able to proc for the first time with red after getting all 5, my friend was procing yellow earlier with 4. not 100% certin about blue with 3 but with 2 TEs i could not proc at all.

I'd also like to suggest that there is no specific procs it's just magic, WS, and JAs with a random chance of it causing the !! on their mob type (evidenced by people procing after multiple tries with the same spell). Given that we are seeing teir 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, -jas, enfeebs, -ga enfeebs, and merit spells for magic alone it seems highly unlikely that it is picking a specific spell from your list.
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By Ragnarok.Brodiewan 2011-05-15 12:39:28  
yesterday in xarcabard i red triggered demon thief a few times with feather step. no pics sorry.
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By Shiva.Xellith 2011-05-15 12:43:47  
Procing red is NOT 100% regardless of whatever you do.

Evidence:
Dynamis Beaucedine - SizeDD Dynamis

Pulled about 6 Mobs. They all got to camp. I Aeolian Edged. 1 of the 3 that I hit was staggered with red. The one I was currently engaged to was not staggered. Someone else in the ally Aeolian edged about 6 seconds after me.

The monster I was fighting got staggered.

Based on this evidence it seems to me that procing is NOT 100% and multiple attempts must be made to get a proc.

It might be possible that each monster has a list of possible triggers and just spamming them over and over might yield a proc. However more testing is required.
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By Asura.Ina 2011-05-15 12:58:14  
That procing was not 100% was established a while back... looking at the pure size of the proc lists it also seems there is no specific procs. In other words if it is a WS on a WS weak mob than any WS stands a chance at procing. Magic mobs someone was noticing a pattern based on the order of days in the week but I can't personally conferm or deny this.
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By Ramuh.Ivebian 2011-05-15 13:02:23  
Don't have time to read thru it all or edit post right now but based off our runs i find that quite true first time we decided to get all TE's was the first time we saw any staggers and they were pretty consistent going to try some of the stuff being discussed such as possible magic conditions tonight and if it all checks out ill add it to that post above along with some other info about staggers I gathered thats currently on ls website that should help anyone looking for information ill also update stagger list above tonight after namis run
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By Bahamut.Alukat 2011-05-15 14:00:53  
friend and me just finished dynamis - san'doria (NIN/DNC + RDM/BLM,entered on fireday) , we proc'd 85% of the mobs.

that's what we discovered:

Mezmerizer (BLM) was always Ice spell as proc
Bugler (BRD) was always Wind spell as proc

proc'd BRD once with silence, when it had full hp.
all other procs the mob had <50%HP.
so mob HP maybe plays a role for proc too.

i was the rdm, so can't say much about the WS / JA proc's,because my bud did them.
just proc'd pld a couple time with evisceration / energy drain.

Edit: we left with 47 currencys, didn't care about proc colour
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By Sylph.Brysky 2011-05-15 14:13:21  
I solo glacier and was procing with ninjitsu ice on iceday to a hydra brd and hydra whm, brd dropped 1 bronze and 520 exp, whm dropped 1 of each currency and 520 exp. No th was used. All te's were gotten prior to this. Got some 100's from NM with no proc and no th as well. Was mnk / nin
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By Bahamut.Alukat 2011-05-15 14:16:58  
Sylph.Brysky said:
I solo glacier and was procing with ninjitsu ice on iceday to a hydra brd and hydra whm, brd dropped 1 bronze and 520 exp, whm dropped 1 of each currency and 520 exp. No th was used. All te's were gotten prior to this. Got some 100's from NM with no proc and no th as well. Was mnk / nin

u've poped it or was it up already?
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By Ramuh.Mizuharu 2011-05-15 15:36:28  
I just staggered a Kindred Ranger with Mijin Gakure because I had too many links... I'll post the screenshot when I'm done in here
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By Sylph.Anariodin 2011-05-15 17:33:58  
yesterday proc = yellow (4 TE)
today proc = red (5 TE)

Also the proc/mob job was correct
spells/JA/WS are random
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By Ragnarok.Corres 2011-05-15 18:16:17  
semms to narrow it down the more TE's you have.

Possibly you can stagger with luck a mob without any TE.
The more TE the lesser various Ja WS or Magic is needed to proc.
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By Sylph.Brysky 2011-05-16 06:51:06  
The NMs were up and some I popped.

Stagger seems to improve exp as well. Was getting 150 on hydra mobs without procs. Although this was on rng, pld, drk, and drg. The mobs seemed much easier to solo then the brds and whm which yielded 520 exp with procs. The 150 mobs were at the turn right after yags and the 520 were up top right before pathway to nue tower.

Snk/invis is a must, can get all TEs in first 20-30 mins.

Edit: debunked this, hydra I fought were ep-vt today. Higher up the mountain the higher they got.
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By Fenrir.Dibble 2011-05-16 13:10:25  
Pretty sure we proced with repose last night... pretty sure...
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By Ramuh.Mizuharu 2011-05-16 14:14:25  
Yeah, here ya go.

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By Sylph.Brysky 2011-05-16 14:26:42  
Hope if solo you could reraise and get shadows up before unstaggered. Did it de-pop with rest of mobs?
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By Siren.Dcon 2011-05-16 14:31:28  
quick question as far as TE's do they come from any stat in the zone or do i need to hunt down certain ones?
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By Lakshmi.Mabrook 2011-05-16 14:41:33  
It looks to me like the stagger system is a nonstop-random JA/spell/WS that probably changes every 1-5 seconds, similarly to Abyssea.

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By Sylph.Brysky 2011-05-16 14:45:52  
Siren.Dcon said:
quick question as far as TE's do they come from any stat in the zone or do i need to hunt down certain ones?

Certain ones
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By Shiva.Wiegraph 2011-05-16 14:46:22  
Sturmwind is also a great axe trigger, might wanna put that up there.
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By Siren.Kuz 2011-05-16 14:53:10  
Siren.Dcon said:
quick question as far as TE's do they come from any stat in the zone or do i need to hunt down certain ones?

If I remember correctly, should be the "Prototype" statues.
One of the maps either on here or BG, the Xarcabard one, Me and 2 other LS mates tested and it was right on the money with TE's.
And if memory serves me right, each was a "Prototype"
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