Indra's Staff
indra's staff
Techincally most things in this game have decreasing returns. Those staffs do too technically.
Bahamut.Dasva said:
Techincally most things in this game have decreasing returns. Those staffs do too technically.
Hq(old hq) 15%
Magi HQ 30%
1.30/1.15 = 13%
Bahamut.Dasva said:
Techincally most things in this game have decreasing returns. Those staffs do too technically.
Someone just pointed that out for me, that magian staffs stack with the same bonus as some atmas, like beyond.
But yeah, you still get way more mab, so the staffs will probably allways be superior to mab choices.
Except maybe Dorje vs HQ staffs for SCH in some situations?
Too lazy to check it out now.
Waiting for a "mab takes time to proc"
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Cerberus.Kvazz said:
Bahamut.Dasva said:
Techincally most things in this game have decreasing returns. Those staffs do too technically.
Except maybe Dorje vs HQ staffs for SCH in some situations?
Too lazy to check it out now.
And Dorje is never a good idea outside of hmp build
Bahamut.Dasva said:
Cerberus.Kvazz said:
Bahamut.Dasva said:
Techincally most things in this game have decreasing returns. Those staffs do too technically.
Except maybe Dorje vs HQ staffs for SCH in some situations?
Too lazy to check it out now.
And Dorje is never a good idea outside of hmp build
He said HQ is different from Magian trials.
Havent had time to test it myself yet, but aparantly the magian staffs add together with the atmas, and normal HQ staffs work like they allways have
Hmmmm harder to test those... I supposed I could try. Weird SE would make them exactly the same except for that... when atmas didn't even exist when they made those trial staffs lol
Guess I should check BG and see if I can see anything about it, gonna look now
Hmmm ok I take that back the magain ones are added to the +element attack. Also in the process I found out lion is actually 30% not the 40 wiki says. How very odd... be funny if HQ staffs end up becoming almost as good as trial staffs lol
Bahamut.Dasva said:
Hmmm ok I take that back the magain ones are added to the +element attack. Also in the process I found out lion is actually 30% not the 40 wiki says. How very odd... be funny if HQ staffs end up becoming almost as good as trial staffs lol
Gonna need alot of atk+ for that to happen tho:P
Sylph.Elgorian said:
daddyrabbit4444 said:
just saw a blm doing 5k + in abyssea with ice trail staff just how powerful are the pucking staffs? my ice 5 only do around 2400 with 50int. boost atma, my question is how much stronger are these staffs over say jupiters staff?
Ice Staff is Varuna's....
Topic Name is Indra's (Lightning)...
Yet...you only mention...Ice
I lol'd
Cerberus.Kvazz said:
Bahamut.Dasva said:
Hmmm ok I take that back the magain ones are added to the +element attack. Also in the process I found out lion is actually 30% not the 40 wiki says. How very odd... be funny if HQ staffs end up becoming almost as good as trial staffs lol
Bahamut.Dasva said:
be funny if HQ staffs end up becoming almost as good as trial staffs lol
Basically you get this scenerio when you add a +30att atma:
100 * 1.15 *1.30 = 149
100 * 1.60 = 160
So it comes out to be around a 7% increase difference vs the 13% you were given with Magi over HQ staves. Again this only on spells that you get the +att bonus from the atma, other spells are unaffected by this. You are still doing more damage with Magi, just less effective with +atma vs hq(old) staves.
Sure it only effects those elements but you probalby only using those except proccing and probably only have those magian staffs anyways lol. And what if you had 60!?! Even closer. And who knows what we will get next.
But my main gripe is part of what kinda balances other jobs with strong magical dmg is not getting magian staffs... having this brings them super close. I mean the 3 jobs with the strongest brewed magical dmg are blu then cor and rng lol
But my main gripe is part of what kinda balances other jobs with strong magical dmg is not getting magian staffs... having this brings them super close. I mean the 3 jobs with the strongest brewed magical dmg are blu then cor and rng lol
Ifrit.Hitoseijuro said:
Bahamut.Dasva said:
be funny if HQ staffs end up becoming almost as good as trial staffs lol
Basically you get this scenerio when you add a +30att atma:
100 * 1.15 *1.30 = 149
100 * 1.60 = 160
So it comes out to be around a 7% increase difference vs the 13% you were given with Magi over HQ staves. Again this only on spells that you get the +att bonus from the atma, other spells are unaffected by this. You are still doing more damage with Magi, just less effective with +atma vs hq(old) staves.
I thought HQ staves were affinity based as well. The trial ones use a different calculation?
I just got my Varuna's +2, is there any reason for me to keep my Aquilo's staff still?
Cerberus.Tzaellia said:
I just got my Varuna's +2, is there any reason for me to keep my Aquilo's staff still?
Bind,Paralyze
Cerberus.Tzaellia said:
I just got my Varuna's +2, is there any reason for me to keep my Aquilo's staff still?
I would keep the HQ staves incase they add oldschool style HNMs for lv90-99 that needs that extra macc.
<__<;
Cerberus.Finalvegeta said:
Cerberus.Tzaellia said:
I just got my Varuna's +2, is there any reason for me to keep my Aquilo's staff still?
Bind,Paralyze
Good to know, thanks.
Carbuncle.Axle said:
I thought HQ staves were affinity based as well. The trial ones use a different calculation?
Hq is on a different step therefore multiplied with the other boosts in %.
Cerberus.Tzaellia said:
Cerberus.Finalvegeta said:
Cerberus.Tzaellia said:
I just got my Varuna's +2, is there any reason for me to keep my Aquilo's staff still?
I has 7/8 magian +1 or +2 staffs all except dark element one, keeping plutos, austers, terras and aquilos staff... really need inv space expansion real fkin soon, getting to a point im loosing better and better pieces to my satchel. Almost pointless to try aquire more blm gear unless it entirely replaces something I already own.
I dont use my HQ staffs anymore, beeing kinda lazy >_<
Using alkalurops for MACC, just 5 less than a HQ staff, saves me inventory atleast ;;
Edit: Use the ones I dont have magian staffs for on nukes ofc >_>
And terra/pluto for their other use.
Using alkalurops for MACC, just 5 less than a HQ staff, saves me inventory atleast ;;
Edit: Use the ones I dont have magian staffs for on nukes ofc >_>
And terra/pluto for their other use.
Sylph.Krsone said:
Cerberus.Tzaellia said:
Cerberus.Finalvegeta said:
Cerberus.Tzaellia said:
I just got my Varuna's +2, is there any reason for me to keep my Aquilo's staff still?
I has 7/8 magian +1 or +2 staffs all except dark element one, keeping plutos, austers, terras and aquilos staff... really need inv space expansion real fkin soon, getting to a point im loosing better and better pieces to my satchel. Almost pointless to try aquire more blm gear unless it entirely replaces something I already own.
Why do you need all those staff for dmg... most cases you only cast bliz and thunder for dmg and rarely fire. The others you shouldn't even need...
5k nukes Bliz 5's aren't difficult, even for me (lolGalkaBLM).
On Iceday I 1-shot Bluffalos for nearly 6.5k with Varuna's +2.
Race = irrelevant now.
Atmas + gear = everything in Abyssea.
I usually use Minikin/Beyond/Baying Moon or Ultimate.
I should use Ultimate all the time instead of Baying moon but it's nice to have some more MP as Galka, even with 10mp/tick refresh from Minikin +3 from Refresh.
On Iceday I 1-shot Bluffalos for nearly 6.5k with Varuna's +2.
Race = irrelevant now.
Atmas + gear = everything in Abyssea.
I usually use Minikin/Beyond/Baying Moon or Ultimate.
I should use Ultimate all the time instead of Baying moon but it's nice to have some more MP as Galka, even with 10mp/tick refresh from Minikin +3 from Refresh.
Cerberus.Finalvegeta said:
Cerberus.Tzaellia said:
I just got my Varuna's +2, is there any reason for me to keep my Aquilo's staff still?
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