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 Quetzalcoatl.Volkom
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By Quetzalcoatl.Volkom 2010-12-28 10:44:03  
So the other day I fought Shinryu on my drk, trying to get his atma. after popping a brew off I was deeply disapointed in the kind of damage output I was doing.
So under brewed conditions what would be the best weapon(not counting empyrean,relic,mythic,WoE empyrean-1's) and atmas to use?
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By Quetzalcoatl.Xueye 2010-12-28 10:48:27  
What weapon skill were you using?

What sort of damage were you dishin'?
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By Alexander.Netheb 2010-12-28 10:50:20  
Freezebite has the highest damage for GS while using brew I've found
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By Quetzalcoatl.Volkom 2010-12-28 10:51:19  
Quetzalcoatl.Xueye said:
What weapon skill were you using? What sort of damage were you dishin'?
I did a few weaponskills to see which one was doing the most.
I was using:
- Vorpal Blade avg 2.5k
- Spinning Slash avg 3.5k
- Insurgency/Guillotine 5k
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By Quetzalcoatl.Volkom 2010-12-28 10:51:47  
Alexander.Netheb said:
Freezebite has the highest damage for GS while using brew I've found
really?
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2010-12-28 10:57:38  
Quetzalcoatl.Volkom said:
Alexander.Netheb said:
Freezebite has the highest damage for GS while using brew I've found
really?
It seems his lvl/def is rather high it totally murders pdif so magical are tending to do a bit better.

Haven't seen if anyone has bothered to SA or def down it to find out how much of which one it is.

Why didn't you just get a multi hit/low delay weapon and souleater?
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By Gilgamesh.Hysoka 2010-12-28 11:23:32  
Havent tried Freezbite, my best guillo was about 4k, then tried spinning slash and meh, finally found out Ground Strike was a good option. 5k lowest, 9.8k top (average 8k).

Now i wanna try Freezbite XD
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By Jar 2010-12-28 11:28:51  
Herculean Slash was doing 15-20K for me
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By Quetzalcoatl.Xueye 2010-12-28 11:36:57  
Jar said:
Herculean Slash was doing 15-20K for me

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By Valefor.Setsugekka 2010-12-28 12:07:29  
understandable, since blms are doing 15-25k per nuke. The huge INT boost means your DINT is going to be very high, which measures as the D in your WS damage formula. A normal weapon of let's say 140 base damage will have 163 D with fstr capped. But with Herculean slash, your DINT could be 800-900 depends on shinryu's INT. Not to mention, it does have a fairly high modifier, 60% VIT. When all your attributes are 999, the higher % of modifier the better. This tops the 25% str and mnd of guillotine, which is a 50% total. Not to mention you can use MAB to boost the damage of this WS by using atma. I wouldn't be surprised to see higher number than 15-20k if you go all out MAB atma.
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By Alexander.Varistor 2010-12-28 12:12:24  
Since Herc is Ice based, Atma of Beyond gives it a double whammy of MAB +30 and Ice Attack +30 then throw on say Ultimate for another 50 MAB and any other MAB atma. My thoughts at least.
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By Valefor.Setsugekka 2010-12-28 12:33:17  
or atma of griffon's claw for a fixed 20% increase after all that MAB.
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By Jar 2010-12-28 13:09:36  
Alexander.Varistor said:
Since Herc is Ice based, Atma of Beyond gives it a double whammy of MAB +30 and Ice Attack +30 then throw on say Ultimate for another 50 MAB and any other MAB atma. My thoughts at least.
Valefor.Setsugekka said:
or atma of griffon's claw for a fixed 20% increase after all that MAB.

Or all three because ppl with Brews have 3 <.< and you dont need TP atmas
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By Quetzalcoatl.Volkom 2010-12-28 13:36:52  
cool advice, thanks =3
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By Bismarck.Pawnskipper 2011-01-03 10:13:12  
Quetzalcoatl.Volkom said:
So the other day I fought Shinryu on my drk, trying to get his atma. after popping a brew off I was deeply disapointed in the kind of damage output I was doing. So under brewed conditions what would be the best weapon(not counting empyrean,relic,mythic,WoE empyrean-1's) and atmas to use?


24 to 26k Infernal scythes with brew on shin. Havent tried GS yet. I think the magic ws work better under brew.
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2011-01-03 10:26:32  
Jar said:
Alexander.Varistor said:
Since Herc is Ice based, Atma of Beyond gives it a double whammy of MAB +30 and Ice Attack +30 then throw on say Ultimate for another 50 MAB and any other MAB atma. My thoughts at least.
Valefor.Setsugekka said:
or atma of griffon's claw for a fixed 20% increase after all that MAB.
Or all three because ppl with Brews have 3 <.< and you dont need TP atmas

I've been doing it as drk/thf using baying moon, beyond and ultimate. Herc slash rips out ~30k with ~10k skillchain every other (and I'm still stuck with a level 80 Albion waiting on coins of decay). Usually 3 ws = win. I'll go during slashing and try for blue first. With doom screen you can hold easily until you get hint and ws proc. Just watch your 3 minute stopwatch (or statustimer if you're not one of those windower haters or console players) so you don't get caught with pants down. GL!
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By Jumeya 2011-01-03 10:32:59  
Merc Kris

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By Bismarck.Dreakon 2011-01-03 17:17:51  
When you brew you get a 50 TP tic iirc wouldn't need the MKris, and would probably be better off with Infernal Scythe or Herculean Slash.
 
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By Fenrir.Gradd 2011-01-03 17:28:25  
Herc Slash will hit for 20k+ every time with brew.

Havent tested out infernal scythe but id assume it would have the same high numbers.
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By Bismarck.Dreakon 2011-01-04 07:48:59  
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Mkris would be nice with souleater

Anything worth using a brew on gains resistance to souleater very quickly.
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2011-01-04 07:59:13  
Fenrir.Gradd said:
Herc Slash will hit for 20k+ every time with brew.

Havent tested out infernal scythe but id assume it would have the same high numbers.

Herc slash would probably win due to better ice atmas, no?
Can only think of cosmos that would help Infernal?

Edit: other than pure mab atmas ofc*
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By Asura.Echandra 2011-01-04 09:13:17  
Might want to give Sanguine blade a shot too. In a nutshell, all the elemental/amber light oriented weaponskills do absurd amounts of damage to any abyssea mob.

I'm also curious what Flash Nova would do on dark...I jokingly used it on Indrik yesterday with my whm and it did 42k damage....
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By Ragnarok.Roudidou 2011-02-28 07:48:03  
Alexander.Tedril said:
Bahamut.Dasva said:
Quetzalcoatl.Volkom said:
Alexander.Netheb said:
Freezebite has the highest damage for GS while using brew I've found
really?
It seems his lvl/def is rather high it totally murders pdif so magical are tending to do a bit better. Haven't seen if anyone has bothered to SA or def down it to find out how much of which one it is. Why didn't you just get a multi hit/low delay weapon and souleater?

K-club ^^ Eat him up... Nowadays lots of people have that money laying around.
What's the point of using a KC?
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2011-02-28 08:04:55  
Ragnarok.Roudidou said:
Alexander.Tedril said:
Bahamut.Dasva said:
Quetzalcoatl.Volkom said:
Alexander.Netheb said:
Freezebite has the highest damage for GS while using brew I've found
really?
It seems his lvl/def is rather high it totally murders pdif so magical are tending to do a bit better. Haven't seen if anyone has bothered to SA or def down it to find out how much of which one it is. Why didn't you just get a multi hit/low delay weapon and souleater?
K-club ^^ Eat him up... Nowadays lots of people have that money laying around.
What's the point of using a KC?
While doing my daily lurking each day i have seen Tedril bring up Kclub several times. My hypothesis is that he either just got one and this is how he brags, or he saw one in action for the first time 7 years late. You pick
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By Fenrir.Gradd 2011-02-28 08:37:45  
KC is gimp, and nowhere near as amazing as it used to be.
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By Fenrir.Skarwind 2011-02-28 09:15:04  
Ragnarok.Roudidou said:
Alexander.Tedril said:
Bahamut.Dasva said:
Quetzalcoatl.Volkom said:
Alexander.Netheb said:
Freezebite has the highest damage for GS while using brew I've found
really?
It seems his lvl/def is rather high it totally murders pdif so magical are tending to do a bit better. Haven't seen if anyone has bothered to SA or def down it to find out how much of which one it is. Why didn't you just get a multi hit/low delay weapon and souleater?

K-club ^^ Eat him up... Nowadays lots of people have that money laying around.
What's the point of using a KC?

DD WHM? D:
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By Asura.Dameshi 2011-02-28 09:18:28  
I brewed him on drk and used freezebite (because my gs skill is low so I don't have Herculian slash, yeah yeah I'm working on it). It got the job done, but was only hitting for 1-7k. I didn't try any scythe ws since he's dark based, though I might throw out a infernal scythe next time just to see.

It was nice too since freezebite was red proc and we didn't need the atma rofl.

So freezebite will do it, but don't expect massive numbers.
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