Having 10% Double Attack and 5%(10%) Triple Attack is nice even without Dual Wield. Add in natural DW and it becomes better.
/sam offers... store tp... sekkanoki... meditate... so in other words /war will gain tp faster and hit harder.
i forget how much tp /sam meditate gives, but isnt it like 60 tp?? Recast is what 5 minutes?
New Job Trait : A 7 YEARS Wait Finally End...
New job trait : a 7 YEARS wait finally end...
I'm calling it now, 99 thf/mnk will be insane, focus, counter, subtle blow(meh), boost also. Will be. Super fun.
O.O didnt even think about focus lol! i loved playing /mnk when i was but a NIN less THF back in the day.
Siren.Delirium said:
Having 10% Double Attack and 5%(10%) Triple Attack is nice even without Dual Wield. Add in natural DW and it becomes better. /sam offers... store tp... sekkanoki... meditate... so in other words /war will gain tp faster and hit harder. i forget how much tp /sam meditate gives, but isnt it like 60 tp?? Recast is what 5 minutes?
60 tp, 3 minutes.
Warrior is the optimal sj obviously.
War> mnk you think? We know its great now, but hmmmm
my vote would be war > mnk in pts. maybe just have some fun with mnk in low man
I think counterstance will be great, especially with thf's evasion.
i'm gonna have to compile a list of fun JAs that will be available....
/mnk
@82 Chi Blast
@90 Counterstance
/war
@90 Agressor
/dnc
@90 Haste Samba
hmmm... now think of the JTs....
/mnk
@82 Chi Blast
@90 Counterstance
/war
@90 Agressor
/dnc
@90 Haste Samba
hmmm... now think of the JTs....
The best SJ will be WAR or DRG depending on accuracy needed ( /war if acc is ok, keep rapparee harness; /drg otherwise and put an acc body, while still caping haste), until level 90. This is assuming DW II, because if it's DW I, like for BLU, then nothing happened. I honestly think DWIII and /war will be overpowered ( would get TP as fast as a SAM or MNK) and calling for suicide.
Also war was never a good SJ on thief, DW II is superior to what /war gives.
Also war was never a good SJ on thief, DW II is superior to what /war gives.
i disagree with the suicide thing. Trick Attack + Assassin insures the THF stays alive. So even with gaining all this TP at such an immense rate we'll STILL avoid pulling hate since we CONTROL hate.
with a native DWII on thf /war will be FAR superior to any option we've had before
with a native DWII on thf /war will be FAR superior to any option we've had before
Gilgamesh.Thedreamer said:
- Thief: Dual Wield
Man took long enouth to Se to realise it...its me or DNC sub made it so useless than SE didnt cared anymore...
Man took long enouth to Se to realise it...its me or DNC sub made it so useless than SE didnt cared anymore...
SE: We will give BLU Dual Wield!
BLUs: Yaaaay, hurrayyy!
SE: Yes, right, there 'ya go...
Ragnarok.Zirael said:
Gilgamesh.Thedreamer said:
- Thief: Dual Wield Man took long enouth to Se to realise it...its me or DNC sub made it so useless than SE didnt cared anymore...
SE: We will give BLU Dual Wield!
BLUs: Yaaaay, hurrayyy!
SE: Yes, right, there 'ya go...
shhhhhh keep the blu out of this conversation....
Why not dual wield to SAM to with double GK o.o
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Ragnarok.Darkpearl said:
Why not dual wield to SAM to with double GK o.o
a.k.a. Monkey Grip
yes give sam dual wield because they have never gotten anything before in an update.
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Pandemonium.Spicyryan said:
Bismarck.Dracondria said:
DW1 FOREVER GOOOOOOOOOOOO
ARRRRGGG!!! SPICY!!! And here I am thinking you were on the THF side of the discussion... orz
Finally!! My wife is so happy right now...
For mnk /war will allow mnk to have an accuracy ja up 100% of the time.
Also with more footwork 2-3 action happening triple/double attack traits wont be as valuable
Also with more footwork 2-3 action happening triple/double attack traits wont be as valuable
don't forget thf/rng too for the new farming set up. Now we can have widescan and not lose our dual wield. /rng comes with the added accuracy for landing those status bolts. bonus.
Another thing to add with /drg. Opens up possibility to equip wyvern earring for easy haste cap.
Walahra Turban, Rapp Harness, Dusk Gloves, Swift/Speed Belt, Aurore pants and boots.
More haste, accuracy, attack with /drg? win.
Another thing to add with /drg. Opens up possibility to equip wyvern earring for easy haste cap.
Walahra Turban, Rapp Harness, Dusk Gloves, Swift/Speed Belt, Aurore pants and boots.
More haste, accuracy, attack with /drg? win.
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Quetzalcoatl.Buckeyespud said:
don't forget thf/rng too for the new farming set up. Now we can have widescan and not lose our dual wield. /rng comes with the added accuracy for landing those status bolts. bonus. Another thing to add with /drg. Opens up possibility to equip wyvern earring for easy haste cap. Walahra Turban, Rapp Harness, Dusk Gloves, Swift/Speed Belt, Aurore pants and boots. More haste, accuracy, attack with /drg? win.
@90 with /drg you get Attack Bonus/Accuracy Bonus/Conserve TP (highlights of JTs) and Jump/High Jump
So attack +10 and accuracy +10 from JTs
@90 with /war you get Double Attack/Attack Bonus/Fencer/lolDefense Bonus and Warcry/Berserk/Aggressor
so attack +10 and a JA with 3:00 up 2:00 down with +25 accuracy.
Its possible to reach haste limits on thf without the wyvern earring, kinda pricy though. Dusk+1 glove(4), Bullwhip(7), Homam/Aurore Feet(3), Turban(5), RH(4), Skadi pants(2) or Aurore/Homam(3). The skadi puts you at 25 homam/aurore pants @26
Aurore Gaiters only have 2% haste
My bad. was going of memory lol thought they had the same haste as homam on pants in the feet slot so with aurore feet and skadi pants you're at 24 aurore feet and homam/aurore pants 25. thanks for the correction though.
OH ***brutal = 15% DA 10% TA(w/merits) /drool
OH ***brutal = 15% DA 10% TA(w/merits) /drool
Everyone is the same. Job A gets an update, so job B is "/wrist SE *** us" DNC was a joke DD and a meh bacjup healer at best. Now they have DD potential to the THF forums are abuzz with bleeding anuses. It's not our game, we just play it.
I'm sure some angry, philosophical super *** is going to read my comment, ponder the best possible rebuttal and blast my bias with a feeble attempt to make me look bad. Who cares, it just might work.
/off soapbox
THF should get their own berserk through the rage of their stabbiness, their own shadows through the sneakiness of their thievery, their own cure spell through the will in which they want to be thief-ier and why not give them their own sleep too. It makes perfect sense right?
I'm sure some angry, philosophical super *** is going to read my comment, ponder the best possible rebuttal and blast my bias with a feeble attempt to make me look bad. Who cares, it just might work.
/off soapbox
THF should get their own berserk through the rage of their stabbiness, their own shadows through the sneakiness of their thievery, their own cure spell through the will in which they want to be thief-ier and why not give them their own sleep too. It makes perfect sense right?
I always thought THF should have gotten DW to begin with. WTH kind of thief only wields a single dagger anyways.
well Myrrh.... none of use are really bitching about anything. its all really just a discussion with hopes of what it could be from what i understand. at least in this thread. and comparisons as to which /job would work best under the new DW conditions.
Me too Akeda. Ever since RoZ when Ninja was release i was like OMG this is amazing for my THF
Me too Akeda. Ever since RoZ when Ninja was release i was like OMG this is amazing for my THF
I don't really fear dnc, but that's natural. But I don't think other thieves should either. Unless that Dnc just so happens to be Myrrh.
Looks like we got *** teased; let the anus bleeding continue,
http://www.playonline.com/pcd/topics/ff11us/detail/5767/detail.html
Looks like we got *** teased; let the anus bleeding continue,
http://www.playonline.com/pcd/topics/ff11us/detail/5767/detail.html
of course, you're still goning to be wanted to sub nin because you're going to be pulling still ^^
Lakshmi.Galvaya said:
EThe way it was worded, made me think thf would get dual wield like blu, in the 80+ range, I hope not, but wouldn't be surprised, especially since thf is a good enough sj because of sneak attack, and trick attack.
SE said:
A host of new abilities, job traits and spells, will also be added for the newly unlocked levels.
TOOOLD YAAA SOOO
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