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 Siren.Delirium
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By Siren.Delirium 2010-08-01 12:36:34  
So When I come back to game I'll need my 35 for skadi pants, however with the addition of aurore pants I'm not 100% sure which I should go for effort wise, being a casual gamer who loves salvage. Strictly DPS in mind. Not for solo situations.

TP phase
Skadi 2 haste 4 accuracy 7 stope tp
Aurore 3 haste 9 accuracy

Basically is 7 store tp better than 1 haste 5 accuracy?

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By Seraph.Gilhaven 2010-08-01 13:00:12  
Well...if you're casual then it would depend on how much time you want to put forth into getting 7 stp (if thats what you want). Personally I'd rather just buy aurore off the AH for 18-20k and be done with it...or spend an hour in abyssea and build up the curor and get em free. As for whats better (Im sure some math ppl would be able to tell you with vast formulas) I'd have to say the haste/acc option on Aurore. Simply cause if you're not soloing you're prolly going to be doing stuff where mobs are somewhat harder and acc would be alot better than stp...haste is a bonus. Did I mention how easy it was to get Aurore? Cus its real easy...and cheap...did I mention cheap?
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By Siren.Delirium 2010-08-01 13:03:30  
Hahaha I understand lol. So buy them and work on skadi when time permits
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-08-01 13:17:57  
Thf can cap haste without pants now at all I think so...
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By Siren.Delirium 2010-08-01 13:36:17  
Ramuh.Dasva said:
Thf can cap haste without pants now at all I think so...
/drool
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-08-01 13:48:20  
Siren.Delirium said:
Ramuh.Dasva said:
Thf can cap haste without pants now at all I think so...
/drool
Not as easy as it sounds... things like acubens head and triecel neck dusk hands +1, bullwhip belt etc... but skadi would allow you not to do all that.
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By Siren.Delirium 2010-08-01 13:52:30  
"Its the thought that counts" lol
I'm at 20 (25 /drg) so I'm good. Homam/Aurore would make 21 hq my dusk hands 22 homam feet 23 vbelt 25
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-08-01 13:53:59  
/drg!?! Do you use aery shield?
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By Siren.Delirium 2010-08-01 13:58:33  
I don't have the haste shield yet, but I want one oh so bad. I use Viking atm
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-08-01 14:01:21  
Not even the /drg haste shield? At least tatami.. which I have for thf/dnc well before /dnc got DW shenanigans
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By Bahamut.Raenryong 2010-08-01 14:04:56  
Why would you use /drg on thf :o
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-08-01 14:05:38  
Bahamut.Raenryong said:
Why would you use /drg on thf :o
Free tp/dmg when you aren't allowed to melee? I can't think of anything else myself
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By Siren.Delirium 2010-08-01 14:26:48  
Accuracy bonus jump high jump. All the same reasons you'd use it on a 2hander. 10 free accuracy is always nice. Along with the extra haste from the earring. Oh and its fun. Kinda like thf/sam which ive seen used on znms
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By Bahamut.Raenryong 2010-08-01 14:30:56  
2handers use /sam over /drg unless they are SAM which for obvious reasons does not. /nin is basically like having a free Hasso (not quite as good but hey) and giving that up for an acc bonus and jumps and 5% or less Haste seems silly to me.
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By Siren.Delirium 2010-08-01 15:06:17  
Its just a "fun" subjob. Like I said casual.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-08-01 15:09:01  
I'd go /dnc first. You get accuracy bonus, and get DW which is like haste that doesn't count to the cap and doesn't require a slot... and you can cure and stuff!!!

/sam is also pretty useful in those can't melee situations
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By Siren.Delirium 2010-08-01 15:16:09  
This was all prior to the last update yknow. /dnc is better than /drg now especially at 80 with haste samba
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By Asura.Karbuncle 2010-08-01 15:50:44  
Ramuh.Dasva said:
Not even the /drg haste shield? At least tatami.. which I have for thf/dnc well before /dnc got DW shenanigans

Would recommend a Tariqah or Tariqah+1 before a Tatami shield, +4/5acc > 5STR! Assuming you need the accuracy at all.

I want an Airy Buckler though /droll =(

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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-08-01 15:52:45  
Asura.Karbuncle said:
Ramuh.Dasva said:
Not even the /drg haste shield? At least tatami.. which I have for thf/dnc well before /dnc got DW shenanigans
Would recommend a Tariqah or Tariqah+1 before a Tatami shield, +4/5acc > 5STR! Assuming you need the accuracy at all.
Yeah but I can't think of a single situation where I would /dnc and use a shield that I could use the acc.

Plus evasion and killer effects ftw!
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By Asura.Karbuncle 2010-08-01 15:55:51  
Tariqah has EVA+4/5 too D:

and i did say assuming you needed the accuracy =(
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By Odin.Cealy 2010-08-09 16:42:16  
Siren.Delirium said:
This was all prior to the last update yknow. /dnc is better than /drg now especially at 80 with haste samba

Haste Samba is level 45.
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By Sylph.Kimble 2010-08-09 17:04:05  
I havent done the math with the new DW dagger and such, but I would think Skadi will pull a head as it should take off an attack around. I know at 75, Skadi made it so I got 10 TP from each round instead of 9.5 or something.
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By Siren.Delirium 2010-08-09 17:26:14  
Odin.Cealy said:
Siren.Delirium said:
This was all prior to the last update yknow. /dnc is better than /drg now especially at 80 with haste samba
Haste Samba is level 45.

yeah i realized that after saying it, but in hindsight the level cap will increase again shortly so it'll make that statement true
Sylph.Kimble said:
I havent done the math with the new DW dagger and such, but I would think Skadi will pull a head as it should take off an attack around. I know at 75, Skadi made it so I got 10 TP from each round instead of 9.5 or something.

the math is in another thread. Here
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-08-09 17:35:51  
Siren.Delirium said:
yeah i realized that after saying it, but in hindsight the level cap will increase again shortly so it'll make that statement true
I'd bet it's better now given that you have to give up either Brutal or Suppa for Wyvern Earring.
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By Siren.Delirium 2010-08-09 17:46:01  
Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
Siren.Delirium said:
yeah i realized that after saying it, but in hindsight the level cap will increase again shortly so it'll make that statement true
I'd bet it's better now given that you have to give up either Brutal or Suppa for Wyvern Earring.

suppa obviously lol. wouldnt need it if not dwing. so instead of 5% delay reduction you're replacing it with 5% haste kind of a fair trade.

really /drg is HIGHLY situational on THF. mostly if you're gonna have a fun time and people let you do it then awesome. that 5 haste in the earring slot rather than suppa lets you stat up somewhere else rather than having the haste there.... gloves.... feet.... everyone's favorite walmart turban. I enjoyed the few times i went drg outside of Saving Private Ryaaf.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-08-09 17:50:35  
But you aren't just trading 5% delay reduction for 5% haste... because /dnc gives 15% by itself.
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By Siren.Delirium 2010-08-09 18:02:09  
was talking purely equipment. ON a technicality note you're actually reducing your delay much more proportionally due to not dual wielding in the first place lol!!!!

Kila
190*.75 = 150.75
(38*60)/150.75 = 15.12

vs.

Auric / Kila (Base Delay 371.45 Aurics DW included)
((201+190)*.75)*.80 = 234.6
((39+38)*60)/234.6 = 19.69

Used Auric+Kila for the DW comparison only and Kila solo due to lower delay

kills your dps and is 36% faster... not better but definately funner to watch lol!!!!

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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-08-09 18:05:08  
Slower and less dmg
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By Siren.Delirium 2010-08-09 18:13:47  
single handing is actually faster per attack round, but i believe the TP gain is slower by far. the DPS also sucks balls compared to dual wielding by about 25%. NEVER actually worth it to NOT dual wield but its fun to single hand every once in awhile to get away from the grind
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