Was Just Wondering if Teal Beats Mahatma On Blm. Im No Nerd and Calculate it so im asking you guys~ (lol)
Edit: im Mithra~ Incase u needed to know >.>
Teal Slops V Mahatma Slops
Teal Slops V Mahatma Slops
UH...
INT+5 MAB+3 V. INT+8...
I'd need a full nuking set but I'm fairly sure the Teal would win.
INT+5 MAB+3 V. INT+8...
I'd need a full nuking set but I'm fairly sure the Teal would win.
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Lakshmi.Greggles said:
UH... INT 5 MAB 3 V. INT 8... I'd need a full nuking set but I'm fairly sure the Teal would win.
Prove him he's stupid plz , lol
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Alright, let me pull together a calculation ><
On T4 and AM2 no doubt. Closest MAB to int ratio I can get is like 1.5int~ 1MAB on T4. AM2 is like 2.1 to 1 I think.
Exactly how much and comparing on T5 spells I'd have to do some math.
Exactly how much and comparing on T5 spells I'd have to do some math.
Lakshmi.Greggles said:
Alright, let me pull together a calculation ><
If I were to give an actual complete answer here, I'd say you'd want to keep both. Mahatma, though not as good for T4/T5/AMII, will still beat Teal for anything below T4 nukes, as well as Enfeebles and of course Elemental debuffs. And if you have SCH, too, Helix spells are highly modded by INT, so that's another use Mahatma would have.
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Lakshmi.Glaciont said:
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Leviathan.Comickaze said:
As a rule of thumb, for every 2 INT you have, it roughly equals 1 MAB.
Right now in my current gear and lvl 1 MAB is worth Xint for the following spells. This is without ugg pendant or day/weather btw
Blizz3:1.44
Blizz4: 1.66
freeze2: 2.24
And if I could cast it water V: 2.01.
Note to figure these out I use a modified form of the dmg calc.
xint = (V+Mdint)/(M*MAB*100)
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MAB with Mahatma:1.61
INT with Mahatma:125
HQ Staff=1.15
Ebony Pudding INT: 89
Burst II Base: 710
MAB with Teal: 1.64
INT with Teal: 124
HQ staff=1.15
Ebony Pudding INT: 89
Burst II base: 710
([(36) x 2 + 710] x 1.61 x 1.15 x 1.00) x 1.25=1,808 Burst II against Ebony Pudding ~ Mahatma
([(33) x 2 + 710] x 1.64 x 1.15 x 1.00) x 1.25=1,827 Burst II against Ebony Pudding ~ Teal
I didn't round, just took off the decimal between each step(instead of rounding which I think SE does) cause I'm lazy, so your results would probably be a bit different.
For anyone Wondering, the nuking set I used was a Taru BLM75/RDM37 with full int merits to make 84 INT, with HQ staff, Bugard +1, Phtm. Tath, Genie Weskit, Prudence Torque, Novio / Moldy, Omega / Tamas, Prism Cape, Sorc Belt, Mahatma / Teal, Goliard Clogs. Also assumed NO Thunder potency merits.
Please correct me if i'm wrong, I'm not sure if I did it right or not lol.
INT with Mahatma:125
HQ Staff=1.15
Ebony Pudding INT: 89
Burst II Base: 710
MAB with Teal: 1.64
INT with Teal: 124
HQ staff=1.15
Ebony Pudding INT: 89
Burst II base: 710
([(36) x 2 + 710] x 1.61 x 1.15 x 1.00) x 1.25=1,808 Burst II against Ebony Pudding ~ Mahatma
([(33) x 2 + 710] x 1.64 x 1.15 x 1.00) x 1.25=1,827 Burst II against Ebony Pudding ~ Teal
I didn't round, just took off the decimal between each step(instead of rounding which I think SE does) cause I'm lazy, so your results would probably be a bit different.
For anyone Wondering, the nuking set I used was a Taru BLM75/RDM37 with full int merits to make 84 INT, with HQ staff, Bugard +1, Phtm. Tath, Genie Weskit, Prudence Torque, Novio / Moldy, Omega / Tamas, Prism Cape, Sorc Belt, Mahatma / Teal, Goliard Clogs. Also assumed NO Thunder potency merits.
Please correct me if i'm wrong, I'm not sure if I did it right or not lol.
I'm no BLM, but IMO, I'd ditch the mahatma slops and use teal slops to save room at the LEAST, even if it makes your damage like .000001% less. It gives you magic attack bonus, and magic acc+ so you won't be resisted as much. One less piece of gear you have to lug around that's situational. It LOOKS better in stats. Do you want yet another pair of pants to wear?
Lakshmi.Greggles said:
MAB with Mahatma:1.61 INT with Mahatma:125 HQ Staff=1.15 Ebony Pudding INT: 89 Burst II Base: 710 MAB with Teal: 1.64 INT with Teal: 124 HQ staff=1.15 Ebony Pudding INT: 89 Burst II base: 710 ([(36) x 2 710] x 1.61 x 1.15 x 1.00) x 1.25=1,808 Burst II against Ebony Pudding ~ Mahatma ([(33) x 2 710] x 1.64 x 1.15 x 1.00) x 1.25=1,827 Burst II against Ebony Pudding ~ Teal I didn't round, just took off the decimal cause I'm lazy, so your results would probably be a bit different. For anyone Wondering, the nuking set I used was a Taru BLM75/RDM37 with full int merits to make 84 INT, with HQ staff, Bugard 1, Phtm. Tath, Genie Weskit, Prudence Torque, Novio / Moldy, Omega / Tamas, Prism Cape, Sorc Belt, Mahatma / Teal, Goliard Clogs. Also assumed NO Thunder potency merits. Please correct me if i'm wrong, I'm not sure if I did it right or not lol.
Teal is a bit better than Mahatma.
Lakshmi.Greggles said:
([(36) x 2 + 710] x 1.61 x 1.15 x 1.00) x 1.25=1,808 Burst II against Ebony Pudding ~ Mahatma
([(33) x 2 + 710] x 1.64 x 1.15 x 1.00) x 1.25=1,827 Burst II against Ebony Pudding ~ Teal
([(33) x 2 + 710] x 1.64 x 1.15 x 1.00) x 1.25=1,827 Burst II against Ebony Pudding ~ Teal
That help you sort through it?
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Sell mahat while they are still worth something. > Farm Abys to get teal pants > rebuy mahat when they are dirt cheap b/c everyone else decides to sell them after getting teal pants.
TADA. You have both and made a couple gils.
TADA. You have both and made a couple gils.
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@Sabishii
Quote isn't working, that's right you are no blm so you should keep your opinions to yourself. There are plenty of spells that aren't affected by MAB at all and only int, oh and btw person that is no blm so doesn't know what they are talking about int gives magic accuracy and both pieces give pretty much the same amount of accuracy.
Quote isn't working, that's right you are no blm so you should keep your opinions to yourself. There are plenty of spells that aren't affected by MAB at all and only int, oh and btw person that is no blm so doesn't know what they are talking about int gives magic accuracy and both pieces give pretty much the same amount of accuracy.
Midgardsormr.Frobeus said:
Sell mahat while they are still worth something. > Farm Abys to get teal pants > rebuy mahat when they are dirt cheap b/c everyone else decides to sell them after getting teal pants. TADA. You have both and made a couple gils.
I can't believe I read most of that.
You're basically trading 3 INT and -4 Enmity for 3 MAB and 3 MAcc...
How is this decision hard?
Anyway, on the bright side for those that use Tatsu pants for nuking, you can go aug those with something else like cure+ and speed+. And sell your Mahatmas.
You're basically trading 3 INT and -4 Enmity for 3 MAB and 3 MAcc...
How is this decision hard?
Anyway, on the bright side for those that use Tatsu pants for nuking, you can go aug those with something else like cure+ and speed+. And sell your Mahatmas.
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But I'm sure something 2-3x better will be out by the time level cap reaches 99.
Quetzalcoatl.Princemercury said:
I can't believe I read most of that. You're basically trading 3 INT and -4 Enmity for 3 MAB and 3 MAcc... How is this decision hard? Anyway, on the bright side for those that use Tatsu pants for nuking, you can go aug those with something else like cure and speed . And sell your Mahatmas.
yw.
Bismarck.Maxse said:
@Sabishii
Quote isn't working, that's right you are no blm so you should keep your opinions to yourself. There are plenty of spells that aren't affected by MAB at all and only int, oh and btw person that is no blm so doesn't know what they are talking about int gives magic accuracy and both pieces give pretty much the same amount of accuracy.
Quote isn't working, that's right you are no blm so you should keep your opinions to yourself. There are plenty of spells that aren't affected by MAB at all and only int, oh and btw person that is no blm so doesn't know what they are talking about int gives magic accuracy and both pieces give pretty much the same amount of accuracy.
About the only spells blm could actually cast in the elemental magic school of magic are the Elemental Debuffs, and 3 INT won't make or break them unless you're almost broken to the next tier.
Magic Accuracy + the 5 int would do better than 8 straight INT for accuracy in my opinion for Enfeebling spells - especially on a job like BLM that already suffers from lower skill, since MACC is generally regarded to be equal to one skill point. I'm not sure how INT does vs. MACC in terms of acc, but I'm fairly sure that it's less.
Lakshmi.Greggles said:
Bismarck.Maxse said:
@Sabishii
Quote isn't working, that's right you are no blm so you should keep your opinions to yourself. There are plenty of spells that aren't affected by MAB at all and only int, oh and btw person that is no blm so doesn't know what they are talking about int gives magic accuracy and both pieces give pretty much the same amount of accuracy.
Quote isn't working, that's right you are no blm so you should keep your opinions to yourself. There are plenty of spells that aren't affected by MAB at all and only int, oh and btw person that is no blm so doesn't know what they are talking about int gives magic accuracy and both pieces give pretty much the same amount of accuracy.
About the only spells blm could actually cast in the elemental magic school of magic are the Elemental Debuffs, and 3 INT won't make or break them unless you're almost broken to the next tier.
Magic Accuracy the 5 int would do better than 8 straight INT for accuracy in my opinion for Enfeebling spells - especially on a job like BLM that already suffers from lower skill, since MACC is generally regarded to be equal to one skill point. I'm not sure how INT does vs. MACC in terms of acc, but I'm fairly sure that it's less.
No one point = .5 macc there has been plenty of testing on it check wiki thank you very much.
The point is you should have both anyway. They are needed as a stoneskin peice the mahatmas, as well as for poisen, ele debuffs etc. If you wanna gimp yourself to save one go slot go for it but dont tell me to.
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Bismarck.Maxse said:
No one point = .5 macc there has been plenty of testing on it check wiki thank you very much.
Bismarck.Maxse said:
Lakshmi.Greggles said:
Bismarck.Maxse said:
@Sabishii
Quote isn't working, that's right you are no blm so you should keep your opinions to yourself. There are plenty of spells that aren't affected by MAB at all and only int, oh and btw person that is no blm so doesn't know what they are talking about int gives magic accuracy and both pieces give pretty much the same amount of accuracy.
Quote isn't working, that's right you are no blm so you should keep your opinions to yourself. There are plenty of spells that aren't affected by MAB at all and only int, oh and btw person that is no blm so doesn't know what they are talking about int gives magic accuracy and both pieces give pretty much the same amount of accuracy.
About the only spells blm could actually cast in the elemental magic school of magic are the Elemental Debuffs, and 3 INT won't make or break them unless you're almost broken to the next tier.
Magic Accuracy the 5 int would do better than 8 straight INT for accuracy in my opinion for Enfeebling spells - especially on a job like BLM that already suffers from lower skill, since MACC is generally regarded to be equal to one skill point. I'm not sure how INT does vs. MACC in terms of acc, but I'm fairly sure that it's less.
No one point = .5 macc there has been plenty of testing on it check wiki thank you very much.
So, 8 INT = 4 MACC while 5 INT+3 MACC=5.5 MACC? Yeah, teal is better.
I find it amusing that the day I look to make a MND set for my BLU is the day Mahatma Slops took a southern turn in price on Fenrir ^^. I think I snagged them right after the update :D.
I'd like to thank the blms selling them to get teal :3
I'd like to thank the blms selling them to get teal :3
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Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
Bismarck.Maxse said:
No one point = .5 macc there has been plenty of testing on it check wiki thank you very much.
Why dont you check wiki nightfyre above 50% accuracy 1 macc = .5 magic accuracy. Or can you not read?
Edit: wait wait i read it backwards nvm
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