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No, ridiculous is a 75SAM wearing a Togi. I'm sorry, but it's WRONG. I'm going to put the math out ONE MORE TIME, and if you people are still defending the inferior choice afterwards, to hell with you. You spent more gil on a less worthy piece, and it's your own damn fault. No need to defend mediocrity.

Haubergeon: +5STR, +5DEX, +10 Accuracy, +10 Attack, -20 evasion, -5AGI
Shura Togi: HP-50, Accuracy +10, Attack +20.

The accuracy stats cancel each other out, so it comes down to this after one elimination:

Haub: +5STR, +5 DEX, +10 Attack, -20 evasion, -5AGI
Togi: HP-50, +20 attack.

Now, cancel out the attack values between them, and we have this:

Haub: +5STR, +5DEX, -20 evasion, -5AGI
Togi: HP-50, +10 attack.

Now let's convert STR and DEX into attack/accuracy shall we? We'll cancel out the attack on togi at the same time, since it has more.

Haub: +5STR, +5DEX (.5% critical hit rate), +3.75 accuracy, -20 evasion, -5AGI
Togi: HP-50, +6.25 attack.

Huh, wouldn't you look at that? Haubergeon kept it's +5STR and DEX after converting those values into attack/accuracy, why? Oh, it's because STR counts towards fSTR, and DEX counts towards critical hit rate, whereas Togi has nothing to counteract these values. 5STR is almost guaranteed to raise your fSTR one level, in turn raising your weapon's base damage. So not only is it providing you attack on top of the +attack value on the body, it's providing a boost to your base damage as well.

Can you people see this now? Haubergeon has the advantage. It costs LESS than a Shura Togi, gives you more accuracy, adds to your base damage, and also adds a little to your critical hit rate.

Shura Togi provides 6.25 attack, and a hit to your hp.

Sure, Haubergeon provides -5AGI and -20 evasion, but would you really be wearing it if you're trying to survive? No. That should be an Arhat's Gi (+1) in that slot, so neither of these pieces come into play for the solo factor.

Please stop arguing this people. Haubergeon is better, and that's not going to change whatever you may think. Using a Togi while realizing this is just your own fault, and you deserve a /point /laugh in your direction. I'm here trying to save you from being laughed at people, but if you can't appreciate that, die in a fire.

(And no, the togi is not on par with great SAM gear. NQ Haub is on par. HQ Haub is best, alongside Hachiryu Haramaki/Usukane Haramaki in their own situations.)

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